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** In the early 2000s, Disney started to make noticeably boy-oriented movies, featuring {{Disney/dinosaur}}s, [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove emperors]], [[Disney/TreasurePlanet pirates in space]], [[Disney/ChickenLittle alien invasions]] and [[Disney/BrotherBear bears]]. This whole run of films constitutes a major DorkAge for the company. ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', a film with two girls as the protagonists, ended up being the most profitable Disney film of this time period.
** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, during the 1990s, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. That said, they were still outgrossed by the clearly male-led ''Disney/TheLionKing''. The exception to Disney princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues: from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.

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** In the early 2000s, Disney started to make noticeably boy-oriented movies, featuring {{Disney/dinosaur}}s, [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove {{WesternAnimation/dinosaur}}s, [[WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove emperors]], [[Disney/TreasurePlanet [[WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet pirates in space]], [[Disney/ChickenLittle [[WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle alien invasions]] and [[Disney/BrotherBear [[WesternAnimation/BrotherBear bears]]. This whole run of films constitutes a major DorkAge for the company. ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', a film with two girls as the protagonists, ended up being the most profitable Disney film of this time period.
** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, during the 1990s, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. That said, they were still outgrossed by the clearly male-led ''Disney/TheLionKing''. ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing''. The exception to Disney princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', ''WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues: from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.
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** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, throughout Disney's lifetime, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them. The exception to Disney princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues: from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.

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** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, throughout Disney's lifetime, during the 1990s, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there That said, they were at least some boys out there watching them.still outgrossed by the clearly male-led ''Disney/TheLionKing''. The exception to Disney princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues: from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.
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Frozen is a bit of an odd case. It isn't officially part of the Disney Princess franchise, and its early advertisements focused on male characters Olaf and Sven.


** Any suggestions that past "girly" Disney films only succeeded because the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established were thoroughly jossed when ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' become not only the highest grossing Disney film of all time but the highest grossing animated film of all time.


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** Any suggestions that past "girly" Disney films only succeeded because the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established were thoroughly jossed when ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' become not only the highest grossing Disney film of all time but the highest grossing animated film of all time.


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** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, throughout Disney's lifetime, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them. The exception to Disney's princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having 'Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.

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** Lilo and Stitch's success could have been influenced by the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien. However, throughout Disney's lifetime, alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them. The exception to Disney's Disney princess films breaking the ghetto was ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', which had a myriad of issues issues: from the use of 'outdated' 2D animation, being released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, and having 'Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel hot on its heels.



** Any suggestions that past "girly" Disney films only succeeded because the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established were thoroughly jossed by ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' becoming not only the highest grossing Disney film of all time but the highest grossing animated film of all time.


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** Any suggestions that past "girly" Disney films only succeeded because the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established were thoroughly jossed by when ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' becoming become not only the highest grossing Disney film of all time but the highest grossing animated film of all time.




* Dolls in general were only seen as being for girls. In more modern times however, where toy architecture has evolved beyond plastic, the woman is the most prone to be freaked out by them.

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* In the early 2000s, Walt Disney Animation Studios started to make noticeably boy-oriented movies, featuring {{Disney/dinosaur}}s, [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove emperors]], [[Disney/TreasurePlanet pirates in space]], and [[Disney/BrotherBear bears]]. ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' had a princess in it, though it was more about adventure in undersea caverns than romance; ''Disney/HomeOnTheRange'' had female animals as main protagonists but was the last 2-D animated film for five years and flopped ''badly''. In fact, this whole run of films constitutes a major DorkAge for the company. ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' managed to avoid the ghetto for the most part, despite its female main characters, and was the most profitable Disney film of this period. However, this may be due to the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien.
** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...
*** Not to mention the bad publicity stemming from the leaked early draft of the script, which was loaded down with UnfortunateImplications and a serious case of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor if you've ever thought the Francise/DisneyPrincess line needed an African-American member.

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* In the early 2000s, Walt Disney Animation Studios is a notable aversion to the GirlShowGhetto.
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started to make noticeably boy-oriented movies, featuring {{Disney/dinosaur}}s, [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove emperors]], [[Disney/TreasurePlanet pirates in space]], [[Disney/ChickenLittle alien invasions]] and [[Disney/BrotherBear bears]]. ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' had a princess in it, though it was more about adventure in undersea caverns than romance; ''Disney/HomeOnTheRange'' had female animals as main protagonists but was the last 2-D animated film for five years and flopped ''badly''. In fact, this This whole run of films constitutes a major DorkAge for the company. ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' managed to avoid ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', a film with two girls as the ghetto for the most part, despite its female main characters, and was protagonists, ended up being the most profitable Disney film of this period. However, this may be due to time period.
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** Any suggestions that past "girly" Disney films only succeeded because the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established were thoroughly jossed by ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' becoming not only the highest grossing Disney film of all time but the highest grossing animated film of all time.

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1) rewriting the parts that say 'women's media being perceived as inferior' is due to sexism against men, 2) adding a trope explanation for the political themes, 3) 'guy' media can be pretty terrible with portraying women so 'man-bashing' doesn't adequately explain why women watch 'men's' shows but men don't watch 'women's' shows


Though its far from the only reason, one of the less discussed factors that plays into maintaining the GirlShowGhetto is the perception created by LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek, and WomenAreWiser. The expectation here is that a show featuring a female lead might be preachy and/or tend to bash men a lot, and this perception is not without merit.

Take the Big Three of Creator/DCComics: {{Franchise/Superman}}, {{Franchise/Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But Wonder Woman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).

This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, [[WriterOnBoard you can expect to be preached at]]. [[AudienceAlienatingPremise How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity]]?

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Though its far from Alongside the only reason, sexism and homophobia mentioned on the main page, one of the less discussed factors that plays into maintaining the GirlShowGhetto is the perception created by LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek, and WomenAreWiser. The expectation here is that a show featuring a use of MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial, where works with female lead might be preachy and/or protagonists tend to bash men a lot, and this perception is not without merit.

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emphasise the 'femaleness' of the protagonist which can come across as unrelatable and/or political. To give one example, the Big Three of Creator/DCComics: {{Franchise/Superman}}, {{Franchise/Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But Wonder Woman has strong feminist themes. She Woman's history is female-centric (she comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot foot) and stories focused on works featuring her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).prominently usually have strong feminist themes.

This creates a clear impression in Another factor is the minds perception created by LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek. Though this perception is less common now as more varied media is beginning to feature female protagonists, to those more familiar with Lifetime films over other forms of potential male readers media, there is an expectation that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, [[WriterOnBoard you can expect to be preached at]]. [[AudienceAlienatingPremise How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity]]?
any show featuring a female lead might bash men a lot.
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* Happens in music quite often. {{Boy band}}s/{{Teen Idol}}s (usually aimed at girls) usually end up gaining a huge PeripheryHatedom, with people sometimes literally sending death threats, but a GirlGroup probably won't have as much of a problem, because of all of the {{fanservice}}.

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* Happens in music quite often. {{Boy band}}s/{{Teen Idol}}s (usually aimed at girls) usually end up gaining a huge PeripheryHatedom, getting disliked, with people sometimes literally sending death threats, but a GirlGroup probably won't have as much of a problem, because of all of the {{fanservice}}.



* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the three most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.

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* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom detractors for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the three most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.
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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...

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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...
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Ace Attorney? 999? Danganronpa? (Ironically, 999 kinda bombed in Japan...)


* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the two most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.

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* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the two three most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.
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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.

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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is often just Mickey's girlfriend.
[[LoveInterest girlfriend]]: she rarely has any direct involvement in each plot's actions.
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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to MickeyMouse, DonaldDuck and {{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.

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* Despite RatedMForManly being deeply entrenched in gaming culture, research has shown it's actually [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/5/8153213/the-games-industry-is-wrong-about-kids-gaming-and-gender the opposite]]: while boys largely don't care about whether the main character of the game is male or female, girls ''do'' and would prefer to play as a fellow female; the logical choice in terms of reaching the greatest number of players, then, would be a game about an ActionGirl, but such things are the exception rather than the rule.
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*Some MerchandiseDriven shows sport a variation, where the show itself doesn't have this problem as much but it's the merchandising that takes a hit. Showing off a [[Franchise/PowerRangers Red Ranger]] figure in the playground is [[RedIsHeroic cool]], showing off a [[PinkMeansFeminine Pink Ranger]] figure is [[PinkIsForSissies an invitation to get beaten up]]. Or at least that's what toy companies think; even when the girls aren't dressed up in bright pink they'll just assume no boy will be interested in buying their stuff.. Starting in 2014-15, if you see a Website/{{Twitter}} hashtag asking "Where's [the girl]?" (like #Wheres[[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Gamora]], #Wheres[[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron BlackWidow]], #Wheres[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Hera]], #Wheres[[Film/TheForceAwakens Rey]], #Wheres[[WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol Skye]]), that's people responding to this trope in play.
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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Princess and the Frog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...

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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Princess and the Frog'' ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...
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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, you can expect to be preached at. How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?

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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, [[WriterOnBoard you can expect to be preached at. at]]. [[AudienceAlienatingPremise How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?
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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and have little interest or understanding in selling to female players.

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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and are very specialized in their knowledge--considering the disastrous attempt in 2012 to sell pinball machines to China (they did not do any localization, translation, or even voltage changes), it's unlikely they currently have little interest or understanding in selling the know-how to female players.sell outside their standard demographics.
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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture).

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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and have little interest or understanding in selling to female players.
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* Pinball has been hit with this hard, is still deep within it, and shows little signs of moving out of it, though the level of acceptance depends on if you're viewing it from the base of players or from the industry itself. Both stem from pinball's history of being games played at casinos and bars, places where men would hang out with each other and develop a clique-like social atmosphere, with manufacturers catching on and making games accordingly; and of pinball's aging demographic. From the player side, there have been many events designed to bring women in and have them feel welcome, and the result is a slow but gradual shift in the gender ratios at competitions, conventions, and other events, though it is still overwhelmingly male. From the industry side, most of the designers, executives, and producers have been making pinball since TheEighties, carrying the social attitudes about games from that period. Pinball moved from casinos and bars to more family-friendly locations like arcades, pizza parlors, movie theaters, and bowling alleys, resulting in machines aimed at kids, but the only manufacturer to have ever designed tables aimed explicitly and unambiguously at women was Creator/{{Zaccaria}} in Italy, though it went out of business in 1990.
* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture).
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A Man Is Not A Virgin is no longer a trope.


** It helps that, in North America at least, [[GirlGroup girl groups]] tend to have a much shorter run, whereas pop idol soloists are often women. Hence: [[ContractualPurity contractual purity]] and associated tropes. Male pop singers face backlash from AManIsNotAVirgin and are expected to transition from "cute" to "adult" without losing their audience, much in the same way female pop idols are required to become HotterAndSexier. It's then that [[DoubleStandard double standards]] kick in, as the male musician who sheds his "cute" image will be praised, while women will be accused of relying on their body, abandoning their values, etc.

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** It helps that, in North America at least, [[GirlGroup girl groups]] tend to have a much shorter run, whereas pop idol soloists are often women. Hence: [[ContractualPurity contractual purity]] and associated tropes. Male pop singers face backlash from AManIsNotAVirgin and are expected to transition from "cute" to "adult" without losing their audience, much in the same way female pop idols are required to become HotterAndSexier. It's then that [[DoubleStandard double standards]] kick in, as the male musician who sheds his "cute" image will be praised, while women will be accused of relying on their body, abandoning their values, etc.
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Take the Big Three of Creator/DCComics: {{Franchise/Superman}}, {{Franchise/Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).

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Take the Big Three of Creator/DCComics: {{Franchise/Superman}}, {{Franchise/Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman Wonder Woman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).



* Over at Creator/MarvelComics, there are no female characters that are as well-known as Franchise/WonderWoman.

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* Over at Creator/MarvelComics, there are no female characters that are as well-known as Franchise/WonderWoman.Franchise/WonderWoman, Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} or Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}.
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* ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'' is assumed as being for girls and very little boys despite being unisex.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'' is assumed as being for girls and very little boys despite being unisex.unisex.
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* The young adult and middle grade (eight-twelve years old) demographics mostly consists of young girls. Part of this is because boys have a tendency to refuse to read anything with a female protagonists.

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* The young adult and middle grade (eight-twelve years old) demographics mostly consists of young girls. Part of this is because boys have a tendency to refuse to read anything with a female protagonists.
protagonist for reasons stated above and young adult and middle grade tend to be considered girly. Another part that affects middle grade more than young adult, is that parents buying books for their sons have a tendency to look for books that could be considered "masculine" when buying for their sons, and "gender neutral" or "girls power themed" books for their daughters.
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* The young adult and middle grade (eight-twelve years old) demographics mostly consists of young girls. Part of this is because boys have a tendency to refuse to read anything with a female protagonists.



* ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'' is assumed as being for girls and very little boys despite being unisex.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'' is assumed as being for girls and very little boys despite being unisex.
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* Dolls in general are only seen as being for girls.

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* Dolls in general are were only seen as being for girls.
girls. In more modern times however, where toy architecture has evolved beyond plastic, the woman is the most prone to be freaked out by them.
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* Video games may perhaps be the hardest one to have been hit by the ghetto, mainly due to many of the founders of the video game being male. This extended itself to the sheer idea that while a girl could play a game, she could never program one. This assumption was considered true until 1989, when the very first video game companies with female programmers started appearing and begun programming video games. The (Western) game industry is ''notorious'' for refusing to break out of the idea that all gamers are 18-25 year old heterosexual white men, at least if you're planning on making a non-casual title.

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* Video games may perhaps be the hardest one to have been hit by the ghetto, ghetto in Japan, mainly due to many of the founders of the Japanese video game scene being male. This extended itself to the sheer idea that while a girl could play a game, she could never program one. This assumption was considered true until 1989, when the very first video game companies with female programmers started appearing and begun programming video games. The (Western) game industry is ''notorious'' for refusing to break out of the idea that all gamers are 18-25 year old heterosexual white men, at least if you're planning on making a non-casual title.
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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, you can expect to be preached at. How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?

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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, you can expect to be preached at. How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?opportunity?

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* Males who enjoy {{Shoujo|Demographic}} works are often looked at askance. Sometimes inverted with women that like {{Shonen|Demographic}} being treated like they're all {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s. Shoujo anime in general is subject to this.

[[AC: Comics]]

* DC Comics It's very largely a 'boys club'. Of the initial ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'' reboot, a quick count shows 27 titles focusing on a male hero, 6 focusing on a female hero (3 of whom have 'Bat' or 'Super' in front of their name) and a number of team books which are predominantly male (with ''Birds of Prey'' being an exception and the flagship ''Justice League'' title being 85% male).
* Over at Creator/MarvelComics, there are no female characters that are as well-known as Franchise/WonderWoman.
** Back in the Nineties, the closest frontrunner was probably ComicBook/{{Storm}}.
** In the 2000s, Comicbook/MsMarvel started getting promoted as the company's big-name superheroine after ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', and the promotional push only got stronger when she was relaunched in 2012 as the new ''Captain'' Marvel.

[[AC: Western Animation Film]]

* In the early 2000s, Walt Disney Animation Studios started to make noticeably boy-oriented movies, featuring {{Disney/dinosaur}}s, [[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove emperors]], [[Disney/TreasurePlanet pirates in space]], and [[Disney/BrotherBear bears]]. ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' had a princess in it, though it was more about adventure in undersea caverns than romance; ''Disney/HomeOnTheRange'' had female animals as main protagonists but was the last 2-D animated film for five years and flopped ''badly''. In fact, this whole run of films constitutes a major DorkAge for the company. ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' managed to avoid the ghetto for the most part, despite its female main characters, and was the most profitable Disney film of this period. However, this may be due to the marketing focusing exclusively on Stitch, a presumably-male alien.
** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Princess and the Frog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...
*** Not to mention the bad publicity stemming from the leaked early draft of the script, which was loaded down with UnfortunateImplications and a serious case of BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor if you've ever thought the Francise/DisneyPrincess line needed an African-American member.

[[AC: Literature]]

* This even extends to the authors themselves, as the many women who have used a MoustacheDePlume can attest.

[[AC: Music]]

* Happens in music quite often. {{Boy band}}s/{{Teen Idol}}s (usually aimed at girls) usually end up gaining a huge PeripheryHatedom, with people sometimes literally sending death threats, but a GirlGroup probably won't have as much of a problem, because of all of the {{fanservice}}.
** It helps that, in North America at least, [[GirlGroup girl groups]] tend to have a much shorter run, whereas pop idol soloists are often women. Hence: [[ContractualPurity contractual purity]] and associated tropes. Male pop singers face backlash from AManIsNotAVirgin and are expected to transition from "cute" to "adult" without losing their audience, much in the same way female pop idols are required to become HotterAndSexier. It's then that [[DoubleStandard double standards]] kick in, as the male musician who sheds his "cute" image will be praised, while women will be accused of relying on their body, abandoning their values, etc.
** Even outside the pop landscape, female-fronted music tends to garner less acclaim and recognition from critics than male-fronted music. This could probably be attributed, at least in part, to the fact that [[MostWritersAreMale Most Critics Are Male.]]

[[AC: Toys]]

* Dolls in general are only seen as being for girls.

[[AC: Video Games]]

* Video games may perhaps be the hardest one to have been hit by the ghetto, mainly due to many of the founders of the video game being male. This extended itself to the sheer idea that while a girl could play a game, she could never program one. This assumption was considered true until 1989, when the very first video game companies with female programmers started appearing and begun programming video games. The (Western) game industry is ''notorious'' for refusing to break out of the idea that all gamers are 18-25 year old heterosexual white men, at least if you're planning on making a non-casual title.
* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the two most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.
** This is horribly ironic, given that visual novels more prominently fall under AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles. It's hard to see how ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' can be considered a girl thing.
*** On the other hand - considerable amount of women (some surveys put it at around 40%) ARE interested in porn, but with almost all of it being shamelessly targeted towards men, they probably have a huge problem finding something to their tastes. Visual Novels, on the other hand, notoriously elevate PornWithPlot to actually decent stories, partially BECAUSE they apply romantic girly novel standards to them. What about numerous H-game Visual Novels getting "clean" rereleases/sequels because plot was good enough.

[[AC: Western Animation]]

* Somewhat inverted with ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce''. The original show, despite having a female major character, it attracted a mostly male fanbase, so the sequel series gave also more spotlight for Gwen and added a love story between her and Kevin to try to appeal more to both genders, and although it got more girls to the show, it's still mostly preferred by boys, so the third sequel, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' put Gwen and Kevin on a bus an focused in the wacky adevntures of Ben and his male alien partner, Ruk.
* Many people think the main character of ''WesternAnimation/MagicAdventuresOfMumfie'' is a girl due to his pink jacket, and claim it's a girls' show due to the fact. Even in France, the show was aimed at preschool girls and had the main character's [[ShesAManInJapan gender changed to be female although the name was the same!]]
* ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'' is assumed as being for girls and very little boys despite being unisex.
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Take the Big Three of DC Comics: Superman, Batman and WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).

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Take the Big Three of DC Comics: Superman, Batman Creator/DCComics: {{Franchise/Superman}}, {{Franchise/Batman}} and WonderWoman.Franchise/WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative).
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Take the Big Three of DC Comics: Superman, Batman and WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman herself is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative itself).

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Take the Big Three of DC Comics: Superman, Batman and WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman herself is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative itself).narrative).
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Though its far from the only reason, one of the less discussed factors that plays into maintaining the GirlShowGhetto is the perception created by LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek, and WomenAreWiser. The expectation here is that a show featuring a female lead might be preachy and/or tend to bash men a lot, and this perception is not without merit.

Take the Big Three of DC Comics: Superman, Batman and WonderWoman. Superman and Batman, whether their stories have depth or not, tend not to be allegorical or political (at least until Superman's 2011 reboot). But WonderWoman has strong feminist themes. She comes from an island entirely populated by female rape victims where men are forbidden to set foot and stories focused on her outside her own title (and sometimes in it) will take pot shots at men (though WonderWoman herself is shown to be above doing so herself, the writer will inject these themes into the narrative itself).

This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, you can expect to be preached at. How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?

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