History Analysis / GirlShowGhetto

26th Apr '18 8:07:26 PM DefiantKitsune
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* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the two most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.

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* This trope and the confusion between {{light novel}}s and {{visual novel}}s (the latter has gameplay, the former doesn't) likely contribute to a significant amount of PeripheryHatedom for visual novel games and their players. Visual novels that have become successful, such as ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' and ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', will immediately attract a flock of players who insist that the games aren't actually visual novels, because visual novel games are a "girl" thing. Ironically, the two three most successful visual novel franchises are centered on male playable characters.
14th Feb '18 12:56:20 PM ritzoreo
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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.

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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is often just Mickey's girlfriend.
[[LoveInterest girlfriend]]: she rarely has any direct involvement in each plot's actions.
12th Feb '18 8:07:41 AM Josef5678
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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to MickeyMouse, DonaldDuck and {{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.

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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to MickeyMouse, DonaldDuck WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and {{Goofy}}; WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.
11th Feb '18 9:10:13 PM ritzoreo
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* Disney Comics are traditionally centered around male characters, with female characters generally being second bananas or somehow related to MickeyMouse, DonaldDuck and {{Goofy}}; for example, Minnie Mouse is Mickey's girlfriend.
21st Jan '18 12:16:09 AM MegaJ
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* Despite RatedMForManly being deeply entrenched in gaming culture, research has shown it's actually [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/5/8153213/the-games-industry-is-wrong-about-kids-gaming-and-gender the opposite]]: while boys largely don't care about whether the main character of the game is male or female, girls ''do'' and would prefer to play as a fellow female; the logical choice in terms of reaching the greatest number of players, then, would be a game about an ActionGirl, but such things are the exception rather than the rule.
21st Jan '18 12:15:15 AM MegaJ
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*Some MerchandiseDriven shows sport a variation, where the show itself doesn't have this problem as much but it's the merchandising that takes a hit. Showing off a [[Franchise/PowerRangers Red Ranger]] figure in the playground is [[RedIsHeroic cool]], showing off a [[PinkMeansFeminine Pink Ranger]] figure is [[PinkIsForSissies an invitation to get beaten up]]. Or at least that's what toy companies think; even when the girls aren't dressed up in bright pink they'll just assume no boy will be interested in buying their stuff.. Starting in 2014-15, if you see a Website/{{Twitter}} hashtag asking "Where's [the girl]?" (like #Wheres[[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Gamora]], #Wheres[[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron BlackWidow]], #Wheres[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Hera]], #Wheres[[Film/TheForceAwakens Rey]], #Wheres[[WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol Skye]]), that's people responding to this trope in play.
15th Oct '17 9:52:43 PM rjd1922
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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Princess and the Frog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...

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** This ignored the fact that alleged "girly" films such as ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' were the highest grossing animated films of their times. Clearly there were at least some boys out there watching them; the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise hadn't yet been established, so boys back then probably didn't associate watching both of those movies as being girly. Also, ''Princess and the Frog'' ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was released the week before ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' opened, with ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' sequel following on its heels...
31st Jul '17 4:59:56 PM CyberTiger88
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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, you can expect to be preached at. How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?

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This creates a clear impression in the minds of potential male readers that if you pick up an issue of Wonder Woman, [[WriterOnBoard you can expect to be preached at. at]]. [[AudienceAlienatingPremise How many fans do you think are beating down the doors of their local comic book shop on shipping day for that opportunity?
opportunity]]?
5th May '17 6:02:58 PM ZombieAladdin
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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and have little interest or understanding in selling to female players.

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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and are very specialized in their knowledge--considering the disastrous attempt in 2012 to sell pinball machines to China (they did not do any localization, translation, or even voltage changes), it's unlikely they currently have little interest or understanding in selling the know-how to female players.sell outside their standard demographics.
5th May '17 1:57:16 PM ZombieAladdin
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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture).

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* The one machine that might shake the industry out of the ghetto would be ''Pinball/WhoaNellieBigJuicyMelons'', a game with an incredibly strong MaleGaze element, as it received a tremendous backlash, enough for Creator/{{Stern}} to issue a PaletteSwap with a complete overhaul of the theme, changing it to the more gender-neutral Pabst Blue Ribbon beer (though still thoroughly rooted in pinball's association with bar culture). The main movers and shakers in pinball are all white males, however, and have little interest or understanding in selling to female players.
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