History Analysis / ASongOfIceAndFire

18th Nov '15 4:22:49 PM Mr.Phorcys
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Of all the noble houses, House Stark is the one the fans love most. That is why they die -- to pack an emotional punch. But also, they have the most characters that are moral and honorable, like Ned Stark and John Snow. These people are the least likely to resort to underhandedness, although they are not above it. So, if they won, it would be like most fantasies with one good and one evil side -- the good guys win. But in real life, this doesn't always happen. And ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' is brutally realistic in this respect. The noble who does not make tons of underhanded plots and is morally grey is outplanned. The honorable noble with no conspiracies dies easily, because he is predictable and it is unlikely he will introduce any new variables. Ned Stark spares the children, and is killed by one of them. Jon Snow realizes that the wildlings are humans and tries to warn everyone about the oncoming threat of a GreaterScopeVillain, only to die because the aforementioned realization brands him a traitor. And the Wall itself deconstructs the concept of "ancient guardians facing a returning evil" -- its been so long, they have, in

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Of all the noble houses, House Stark is the one the fans love most. That is why they die -- to pack an emotional punch. But also, they have the most characters that are moral and honorable, like Ned Stark and John Snow. These people are the least likely to resort to underhandedness, although they are not above it. So, if they won, it would be like most fantasies with one good and one evil side -- the good guys win. But in real life, this doesn't always happen. And ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' is brutally realistic in this respect. The noble who does not make tons of underhanded plots and is morally grey is outplanned. The honorable noble with no conspiracies dies easily, because he is predictable and it is unlikely he will introduce any new variables. Ned Stark spares the children, and is killed by one of them. Jon Snow realizes that the wildlings are humans and tries to warn everyone about the oncoming threat of a GreaterScopeVillain, only to die because the aforementioned realization brands him a traitor. And the Wall itself deconstructs the concept of "ancient guardians facing a returning evil" -- its been so long, they have, in the words or Mormont, forgotten what they were for, and have been reduced to scuffling with wildlings, ignoring the coming doom just over the horizon.
18th Nov '15 4:14:29 PM Mr.Phorcys
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Of all the noble houses, House Stark is the one the fans love most. That is why they die -- to pack an emotional punch. But also, they have the most characters that are moral and honorable, like Ned Stark and John Snow. These people are the least likely to resort to underhandedness, although they are not above it. So, if they won, it would be like most fantasies with one good and one evil side -- the good guys win. But in real life, this doesn't always happen. And ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' is brutally realistic in this respect. The noble who does not make tons of underhanded plots and is morally grey is outplanned. The honorable noble with no conspiracies dies easily, because he is predictable and it is unlikely he will introduce any new.

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Of all the noble houses, House Stark is the one the fans love most. That is why they die -- to pack an emotional punch. But also, they have the most characters that are moral and honorable, like Ned Stark and John Snow. These people are the least likely to resort to underhandedness, although they are not above it. So, if they won, it would be like most fantasies with one good and one evil side -- the good guys win. But in real life, this doesn't always happen. And ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' is brutally realistic in this respect. The noble who does not make tons of underhanded plots and is morally grey is outplanned. The honorable noble with no conspiracies dies easily, because he is predictable and it is unlikely he will introduce any new.new variables. Ned Stark spares the children, and is killed by one of them. Jon Snow realizes that the wildlings are humans and tries to warn everyone about the oncoming threat of a GreaterScopeVillain, only to die because the aforementioned realization brands him a traitor. And the Wall itself deconstructs the concept of "ancient guardians facing a returning evil" -- its been so long, they have, in
18th Nov '15 4:06:05 PM Mr.Phorcys
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!! House Stark as a DeConstruction of Classic Heroes
Of all the noble houses, House Stark is the one the fans love most. That is why they die -- to pack an emotional punch. But also, they have the most characters that are moral and honorable, like Ned Stark and John Snow. These people are the least likely to resort to underhandedness, although they are not above it. So, if they won, it would be like most fantasies with one good and one evil side -- the good guys win. But in real life, this doesn't always happen. And ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' is brutally realistic in this respect. The noble who does not make tons of underhanded plots and is morally grey is outplanned. The honorable noble with no conspiracies dies easily, because he is predictable and it is unlikely he will introduce any new.
18th Nov '15 3:42:51 PM Mr.Phorcys
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** The Night's King resurrects the dead so they will join his army as wights-- they are dead but cannot die, and they themselves are not harder and stronger, but the legions of the Night's King are...Not to mention the Endless Winter's ending being the "death" of white walkers as a threat, and the Night's King's

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** The Night's King resurrects the dead so they will join his army as wights-- they are dead but cannot die, and they themselves are not harder and stronger, but the legions of the Night's King are...Not to mention the Endless Winter's ending being the "death" of white walkers as a threat, and the Night's King's
King's defeat at the Wall seemingly ended in his death. All of them are dead -- not just in the physical sense, but they are all thought of as legends. And they are coming back, harder and stronger...
18th Nov '15 3:23:58 PM Mr.Phorcys
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** The Night's King resurrects the dead so they will join his army as wights-- they are dead but cannot die, and they themselves are not harder and stronger, but the legions of the Night's King are...Not to mention the Endless Winter's ending being the "death" of white walkers as a threat, and the Night's King's
14th Aug '15 1:36:11 AM Nikita123
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!!Daenerys Targaryen in Meereen - by Nikita123
Dany's time in Meereen, in ''A Dance With Dragons''
14th Aug '15 1:26:37 AM Nikita123
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!!Daenerys Targaryen in Meereen - by Nikita123
Dany's time in Meereen, in ''A Dance With Dragons''
28th Apr '15 1:12:03 PM qazwsx
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5th Apr '15 8:03:31 AM ACW
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The thing about fiction is that it typically concerns itself with the struggle between Good and Evil, or at least OrderVersusChaos. This is how we can have good guys and bad guys, heroes and villains, TheCape against the CompleteMonster: one protects others, or at least tries to do no harm, whilst the other advances a personal agenda regardless of others (or even to the direct detriment of others). This ups the ante for our heroic types, who are now involved in a SaveTheWorldClimax from the BigBad's depredations; but the point is that some characters are sympathetic, and others not.

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The thing about fiction is that it typically concerns itself with the struggle between Good and Evil, or at least OrderVersusChaos. This is how we can have good guys and bad guys, heroes and villains, TheCape against the CompleteMonster: Complete Monster: one protects others, or at least tries to do no harm, whilst the other advances a personal agenda regardless of others (or even to the direct detriment of others). This ups the ante for our heroic types, who are now involved in a SaveTheWorldClimax from the BigBad's depredations; but the point is that some characters are sympathetic, and others not.
30th Dec '14 2:56:16 PM RoyFlowers
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** Very interesting, the way you put it does indeed sound very plausible. Knowing the Ironborn, this wouldn't surprise me; especially if they were desperate and going crazy during The Long Night. Though, it is a bit hard to believe that they would ever willingly submit to something that wasn't them, at least, not as ''permanently'' as being ReforgedAsAMinion. Perhaps their devil, The Storm God, is in fact Stannis Baratheon, who is The Storm Lord and arguably TheChosenOne, the one who is apparently destined to defeat The Others.

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** Very interesting, the way you put it does indeed sound very plausible. Knowing the Ironborn, this wouldn't surprise me; especially if they were desperate and going crazy during The Long Night. Though, it is a bit hard to believe that they would ever willingly submit to something that wasn't them, at least, not as ''permanently'' as being ReforgedAsAMinion.made living dead foot soldiers in a zombie horde. Perhaps their devil, The Storm God, is in fact Stannis Baratheon, who is The Storm Lord and arguably TheChosenOne, the one who is apparently destined to defeat The Others.
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