History AlasPoorVillain / VideoGames

11th Apr '17 5:51:29 PM nombretomado
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* One of the original ones for Video Games was Oddler/Odd Eye in ''ShiningForce II''. Dude joined you as a blind kid with no memories, he follows you and clearly admires your skill, and stays behind with Creed. Unfortunately, he turns out to be a greater devil and is fought as a boss, wishing, as he died, that he could live his life again not as a devil.

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* One of the original ones for Video Games was Oddler/Odd Eye in ''ShiningForce II''.''VideoGame/ShiningForceII''. Dude joined you as a blind kid with no memories, he follows you and clearly admires your skill, and stays behind with Creed. Unfortunately, he turns out to be a greater devil and is fought as a boss, wishing, as he died, that he could live his life again not as a devil.
15th Mar '17 2:09:07 PM Monsund
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*** Some people felt that Sonia was [[BreakTheHaughty broken a bit too much]], invoking SympathyForTheDevil.



*** Another is Nergal's top lieutenant, Limstella. Despite being a rather creepy, [[EmotionlessGirl emotionless]] ArtificialHuman, she has an absolutely ''gut-wrenching'' final moment: "I am not human. This body and this heart are constructs. Yes, as is this sorrow."

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*** Another is Nergal's top lieutenant, Limstella. Despite being a rather creepy, [[EmotionlessGirl emotionless]] ArtificialHuman, she has an absolutely ''gut-wrenching'' final moment: "I moment where she laments her lack of emotion, while showing [[TinMan genuine sadness]]] at [[UndyingLoyalty failing Nergal]].
--->'''Limstella''': I
am not human. This body and this heart are constructs. Yes, as is this sorrow."
15th Mar '17 2:05:32 PM Monsund
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*** Optionally, Hetzel might get one. Of all the Begnion Senators, he's clearly the least evil. (e.g., buying Rafiel as a slave only to save him and then release him.) Even when you do fight him, he apologizes and says he doesn't want to do it, he's more afraid of what Lekain will do to him if he ''doesn't'' go along with it. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Data that has been found suggests that he could have been spared, actually.]]
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' either loves this or tries its best to avoid it depending on your view. Just leaving out the characters that would fit into this ''if'' they didn't pop back up alive as secret recruits in the endgame, we still have Mustafa, a Plegian General who is so touched by the previous chapter's sacrifice that he does not wish to fight you, but must because his king will most probably bring harm to his family otherwise. Even before the battle starts, he realizes his own men don't feel like fighting either, and volunteers to take the blame for them if they choose to leave. It's actually this bravery in the face of punishment that makes them decide to stay until the end.
*** It becomes even more of a PlayerPunch when you realize he was also the kind of general that was AFatherToHisMen. Not only are his dying words a plea to spare his men, but a conversation between Ricken and Plegian recruit Henry reveals that Mustafa used to give Henry a bag of peaches whenever he visited, because he reminded him of his son and even considered Henry a part of his family.

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*** Optionally, Hetzel might get one.Heizel as well. Of all the Begnion Senators, he's clearly the least evil. (e.g., buying Rafiel as a slave only to save him and then release him.) Even when you do fight him, he apologizes and says he doesn't want to do it, he's more afraid of what Lekain will do to him if he ''doesn't'' go along with it. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Data that has been found suggests that he could have been spared, actually.]]
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' either loves this or tries mostly does its best to avoid it depending on your view. Just leaving out the characters that would fit into this ''if'' they didn't pop back up alive as secret recruits in with the endgame, we still have majority of villains simply being [[CardCarryingVillain openly evil]] and anyone important having an UnexplainedRecovery. Nevertheless there are two examples.
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Mustafa, a Plegian General who is so touched by the previous chapter's sacrifice that he does not wish to fight you, but must because his king king, Gangrel, [[IHaveYourWife will most probably bring harm to his family otherwise.otherwise]]. Even before the battle starts, he realizes his own men don't feel like fighting either, and volunteers to take the blame for them if they choose to leave. It's actually this bravery in the face of punishment that makes them decide to stay until the end.
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end. It becomes even more of a PlayerPunch when you realize he was also the kind of general that was AFatherToHisMen. Not only are his dying words a plea to spare his men, but a conversation between Ricken and Plegian recruit Henry reveals that Mustafa used to give Henry a bag of peaches whenever he visited, because he reminded him of his son and even considered Henry a part of his family.


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*** Victor and Vincent are a pair of cheerful bandit twins who raid villages and have a very close relationship. If Victor is killed, the surviving Twin, Vincent is [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes despondent]] and seeks to get his brother a grave after his AvengingTheVillain is completed. While the whole thing was playedForLaughs, many players found it [[UnintentionallySympathetic genuinely touching]] and sympathized with the bandit twins.
26th Jan '17 5:33:00 AM MegaSolipsist
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** [[spoiler:For most of the game he's an arrogant creep at best and deranged psycho at worst, who you learn is responsible for the murder of Rachel Amber, and when you are told that he has been murdered it seems like karma. However, Rachel's death was an accident, as Nathan kidnapped her by himself to impress Mr Jefferson, the only FatherFigure to show any compassion or praise towards Nathan, which backfired horribly. Once you escape the Dark Room you receive his final message, a voicemail on your phone in which he warns you that Mr Jefferson is out to kill you, before he breaks down and begs forgiveness for what he's done, sobbing in remorse.]]

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** [[spoiler:For most of the game he's an arrogant creep at best and deranged psycho at worst, who you learn is responsible for the murder of Rachel Amber, and when you are told that he has been murdered it seems like karma. However, Rachel's death was an accident, as Nathan kidnapped her by himself to impress Mr Jefferson, the only FatherFigure ParentalSubstitute to show any compassion or praise towards Nathan, which backfired horribly. Once you escape the Dark Room you receive his final message, a voicemail on your phone in which he warns you that Mr Jefferson is out to kill you, even as he knows that Jefferson is coming to kill him first, before he breaks down and begs forgiveness for what he's done, sobbing in remorse.]]



** It is strongly implied that [[spoiler:Nathan was in love, or at least infatuated with Rachel]] and various conversation options throughout the game reveal that [[spoiler:Nathan's mental condition has been noticeably deteriorating ever since her /disappearancedeath]] although the only person to notice was [[spoiler:Victoria Chase, who genuinely cares about Nathan, and her misunderstanding over this is a large part of her hostility towards Max.]]

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** It is strongly implied that [[spoiler:Nathan was in love, or at least infatuated with Rachel]] and various conversation options throughout the game reveal that [[spoiler:Nathan's mental condition has been noticeably deteriorating ever since her /disappearancedeath]] disappearance/death]] although the only person to notice was [[spoiler:Victoria Chase, who genuinely cares about Nathan, and her misunderstanding over this is a large part of her hostility towards Max.]]
26th Jan '17 5:25:55 AM MegaSolipsist
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--> [[spoiler:For most of the game he's an arrogant creep at best and deranged psycho at worst, who you learn is responsible for the murder of Rachel Amber, and when you are told that he has been murdered it seems like karma. However, once you escape the Dark Room you receive his final message, a voicemail on your phone in which he warns you that Mr Jefferson is out to kill you, before he breaks down and begs forgiveness for what he's done, sobbing in remorse.]]
--> Made even more impactful if you explore [[spoiler:his room while searching for clues]] and the principal's office, where you can find [[spoiler: an email from his sister expressing concern that their abusive father (who sent her away to the other side of the world for defying him) will try to mould him into his own image to continue the family legacy whatever the cost, reminding Nathan that she still loves him and cares for him]] as well as [[spoiler:the school psychiatrists report, which repeatedly emphasises Nathan's unstable mental condition. It also reveals that Nathan suffers disconnection from reality, anxiety and possibly bipolar disorder, and his psychiatrist recommends Nathan see someone more qualified for such conditions, but Nathan's father insisted that Nathan simply be given heavy medication and be left at Blackwell.]]

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--> ** [[spoiler:For most of the game he's an arrogant creep at best and deranged psycho at worst, who you learn is responsible for the murder of Rachel Amber, and when you are told that he has been murdered it seems like karma. However, once Rachel's death was an accident, as Nathan kidnapped her by himself to impress Mr Jefferson, the only FatherFigure to show any compassion or praise towards Nathan, which backfired horribly. Once you escape the Dark Room you receive his final message, a voicemail on your phone in which he warns you that Mr Jefferson is out to kill you, before he breaks down and begs forgiveness for what he's done, sobbing in remorse.]]
--> ** Made even more impactful if you explore [[spoiler:his room while searching for clues]] and the principal's office, where you can find [[spoiler: an email from his sister expressing concern that their abusive father (who sent her away to the other side of the world for defying him) will try to mould him into his own image to continue the family legacy whatever the cost, reminding Nathan that she still loves him and cares for him]] as well as [[spoiler:the school psychiatrists report, which repeatedly emphasises Nathan's unstable mental condition. It also reveals that Nathan suffers disconnection from reality, anxiety and possibly bipolar disorder, and his psychiatrist recommends Nathan see someone more qualified for such conditions, but Nathan's father insisted that Nathan simply be given heavy medication and be left at Blackwell.]]
** It is strongly implied that [[spoiler:Nathan was in love, or at least infatuated with Rachel]] and various conversation options throughout the game reveal that [[spoiler:Nathan's mental condition has been noticeably deteriorating ever since her /disappearancedeath]] although the only person to notice was [[spoiler:Victoria Chase, who genuinely cares about Nathan, and her misunderstanding over this is a large part of her hostility towards Max.
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26th Jan '17 5:16:28 AM MegaSolipsist
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*[[spoiler:Nathan Prescott]] from ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''
--> [[spoiler:For most of the game he's an arrogant creep at best and deranged psycho at worst, who you learn is responsible for the murder of Rachel Amber, and when you are told that he has been murdered it seems like karma. However, once you escape the Dark Room you receive his final message, a voicemail on your phone in which he warns you that Mr Jefferson is out to kill you, before he breaks down and begs forgiveness for what he's done, sobbing in remorse.]]
--> Made even more impactful if you explore [[spoiler:his room while searching for clues]] and the principal's office, where you can find [[spoiler: an email from his sister expressing concern that their abusive father (who sent her away to the other side of the world for defying him) will try to mould him into his own image to continue the family legacy whatever the cost, reminding Nathan that she still loves him and cares for him]] as well as [[spoiler:the school psychiatrists report, which repeatedly emphasises Nathan's unstable mental condition. It also reveals that Nathan suffers disconnection from reality, anxiety and possibly bipolar disorder, and his psychiatrist recommends Nathan see someone more qualified for such conditions, but Nathan's father insisted that Nathan simply be given heavy medication and be left at Blackwell.]]
4th Jan '17 4:13:17 PM nombretomado
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** SelfDemonstrating/GLaDOS and Wheatley. Neither of them die, but during the core transfer, GLaDOS screams in pain and it's terrifying. Wheatley shoots right into antagonist territory, destroying her power. And then you transfer them ''again'', and throw him into space, and he gets an absolutely heartbreaking apology monologue. It makes you wonder who to feel sorry for at that point.

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** SelfDemonstrating/GLaDOS and Wheatley. Neither of them die, but during the core transfer, GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] screams in pain and it's terrifying. Wheatley shoots right into antagonist territory, destroying her power. And then you transfer them ''again'', and throw him into space, and he gets an absolutely heartbreaking apology monologue. It makes you wonder who to feel sorry for at that point.
11th Dec '16 10:38:49 AM ShivaIndis
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* ''VideoGames/{{Galerians}}'' wants you to feel bad for all the titular Galerians. AxeCrazy psychic superhumans though they may be, they are just pawns in a [[AIIsACrapshoot deranged A.I.'s]] [[AGodAmI bid at godhood]] in the end. This leads to some serious SelectiveCondemnation, in that the protagonist [[ContemplateOurNavels navel-gazes]] after killing Galerians, but offs security guards and research personnel without a second thought.

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* ''VideoGames/{{Galerians}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Galerians}}'' wants you to feel bad for all the titular Galerians. AxeCrazy psychic superhumans though they may be, they are just pawns in a [[AIIsACrapshoot deranged A.I.'s]] [[AGodAmI bid at godhood]] in the end. This leads to some serious SelectiveCondemnation, in that the protagonist [[ContemplateOurNavels navel-gazes]] after killing Galerians, but offs security guards and research personnel without a second thought.
12th Nov '16 5:37:25 AM ashlay
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'': TheMole reveals that all he wanted was to be acknowledged by his father. [[spoiler:He also admits that his goals and the Protagonists' are ultimately the same after throwing his massive tantrum, and seemingly [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies]] protecting the party from his father's mental projection of him inside the MentalWorld of the Palace.]]
24th Oct '16 11:16:46 AM Silverblade2
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** Vulcan Raven

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** The End gets a touching send off, dying doing what made him happy.

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** %%** The End gets a touching send off, dying doing what made him happy.



** The game also does this to Grand Maestro Mohs.

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** %%** The game also does this to Grand Maestro Mohs.



* ''VideoGame/{{Iji}}'''s final boss, General Tor, gets a death scene like this.

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* %%* ''VideoGame/{{Iji}}'''s final boss, General Tor, gets a death scene like this.



* ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'': "When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster."

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* %%* ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'': "When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster."



* Ogura in the true ending of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendaryStarfy Densetsu No Starfy 3]]''. The music doesn't help, either.

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* %%* Ogura in the true ending of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendaryStarfy Densetsu No Starfy 3]]''. The music doesn't help, either.



* Saya, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom''.
** In ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', when a villain's final defeat occurs, they may have a final speech that causes this reaction. Most notable are [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SakuraWars Aya-me]] and [[VideoGame/MegaManX Vile]].]] This also happens to [[spoiler: Saya again in the sequel. Even Reiji and Xiaomu express some sympathy for Saya.]]

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* %%* Saya, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom''.
** * In ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', when a villain's final defeat occurs, they may have a final speech that causes this reaction. Most notable are [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SakuraWars Aya-me]] and [[VideoGame/MegaManX Vile]].]] This also happens to [[spoiler: Saya again in the sequel. Even Reiji and Xiaomu express some sympathy for Saya.]]



* Xaffiquel, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Kamui}}''.

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* %%* Xaffiquel, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Kamui}}''.
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