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!!Where do examples from WebSerialNovels go?

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!!Where do examples from WebSerialNovels {{Web Serial Novel}}s go?

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!!Where do examples from LightNovels go?

"{{Literature}}".



"{{Literature}}".

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Also "{{Literature}}".
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* Many Wiki/TVTropes readers are either extremely interested in anime and manga or not at all interested in them. Separating them out makes it easier for these people to find the examples they're interested in, especially on pages with folders.

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* Many Wiki/TVTropes Website/TVTropes readers are either extremely interested in anime and manga or not at all interested in them. Separating them out makes it easier for these people to find the examples they're interested in, especially on pages with folders.
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"{{Literature}}""{{Literature}}".
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!!Where do examples from WebSerialNovels go?
"{{Literature}}"
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Other Media is what is used now.


However, in all cases, "Real Life" always goes last, and "Other" goes before "Real Life" but after everything else. If you see a category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.

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However, in all cases, "Real Life" always goes last, and "Other" "Other Media" goes before "Real Life" but after everything else. If you see a category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.
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However, in all cases, "Real Life" always goes last, and "Other" goes before "Real Life" but after everything else. If you see an category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.

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However, in all cases, "Real Life" always goes last, and "Other" goes before "Real Life" but after everything else. If you see an a category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.
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dunno how long it'll be til they fix the ac bug soooo


However, in all cases, [[AC:Real Life]] always goes last, and [[AC:Other]] goes before [[AC:Real Life]] but after everything else. If you see an category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.

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However, in all cases, [[AC:Real Life]] "Real Life" always goes last, and [[AC:Other]] "Other" goes before [[AC:Real Life]] "Real Life" but after everything else. If you see an category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.



They get their own category, namely [[AC:Films -- Animation]].

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They get their own category, namely [[AC:Films "Films -- Animation]].
Animation".



To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}s]] or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:{{Film}}s]] or [[AC:Anime & Manga]], for Japanese animated films). No, that's not how it works with the Administrivia/{{namespace}}s.

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:{{Film}}s]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:WesternAnimation]], [[AC:LiveActionTV]], and [[AC:{{Film}}s]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.

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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}s]] "{{Film}}s" or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] "WesternAnimation" (or [[AC:{{Film}}s]] "{{Film}}s" or [[AC:Anime "Anime & Manga]], Manga", for Japanese animated films). No, that's not how it works with the Administrivia/{{namespace}}s.

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:{{Film}}s]] "{{Film}}s" category and a unified [[AC:Television]] "Television" category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] "Live-Action" category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] "Animation" category?

The [[AC:WesternAnimation]], [[AC:LiveActionTV]], "WesternAnimation", "LiveActionTV", and [[AC:{{Film}}s]] "{{Film}}s" categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.



!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime & Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:{{Anime}}]] and [[AC:{{Manga}}]] categories?

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!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime "Anime & Manga]] Manga" category rather than separate [[AC:{{Anime}}]] "{{Anime}}" and [[AC:{{Manga}}]] "{{Manga}}" categories?



!! Why is [[AC:Anime & Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:ComicBooks]] categories?

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!! Why is [[AC:Anime "Anime & Manga]] Manga" its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] "Animated Television" and [[AC:ComicBooks]] "ComicBooks" categories?



If there's a [[AC:Poetry]] category, list his poems there. If not, they can be listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], or you can make a [[AC:Poetry]] section.

His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:{{Theatre}}]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], that is an error, and it should be moved.

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If there's a [[AC:Poetry]] "Poetry" category, list his poems there. If not, they can be listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], "{{Literature}}", or you can make a [[AC:Poetry]] "Poetry" section.

His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:{{Theatre}}]]; "{{Theatre}}"; if you see one listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], "{{Literature}}", that is an error, and it should be moved.
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Also, trying to do the combination might lead to holy war between people who think the film vs. television distinction is more important and people who think the live-action vs. animation distinction is more important. It's much simpler just to make both distinctions.

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Also, trying to do the combination might lead to [[BrokenBase holy war war]] between people who think the film vs. television distinction is more important and people who think the live-action vs. animation distinction is more important. It's much simpler just to make both distinctions.
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* Many TVTropes readers are either extremely interested in anime and manga or not at all interested in them. Separating them out makes it easier for these people to find the examples they're interested in, especially on pages with folders.

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* Many TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes readers are either extremely interested in anime and manga or not at all interested in them. Separating them out makes it easier for these people to find the examples they're interested in, especially on pages with folders.
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His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:{{Theatre}}]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], that is an error, and it should be moved.

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His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:{{Theatre}}]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:{{Literature}}]], that is an error, and it should be moved.moved.
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They get their own category, namely [[AC:Film -- Animated]].

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They get their own category, namely [[AC:Film [[AC:Films -- Animated]].
Animation]].



To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films). No, that's not how it works with the Administrivia/{{namespace}}s.

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:{{Film}}]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:WesternAnimation]], [[AC:LiveActionTV]], and [[AC:{{Film}}]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.

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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}]] [[AC:{{Film}}s]] or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:{{Film}}]] [[AC:{{Film}}s]] or [[AC:Anime and & Manga]], for Japanese animated films). No, that's not how it works with the Administrivia/{{namespace}}s.

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:{{Film}}]] [[AC:{{Film}}s]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:WesternAnimation]], [[AC:LiveActionTV]], and [[AC:{{Film}}]] [[AC:{{Film}}s]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.



!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime and Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:{{Anime}}]] and [[AC:{{Manga}}]] categories?

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!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime and & Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:{{Anime}}]] and [[AC:{{Manga}}]] categories?



!! Why is [[AC:Anime and Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:ComicBooks]] categories?

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!! Why is [[AC:Anime and & Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:ComicBooks]] categories?
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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films).

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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films).
films). No, that's not how it works with the Administrivia/{{namespace}}s.
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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:Film]] or [[AC:Western Animation]] (or [[AC:Film]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films).

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Film]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:Western Animation]], [[AC:Live Action TV]], and [[AC:Film]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.

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To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:Film]] [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:Western Animation]] [[AC:WesternAnimation]] (or [[AC:Film]] [[AC:{{Film}}]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films).

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Film]] [[AC:{{Film}}]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:Western Animation]], [[AC:Live Action TV]], [[AC:WesternAnimation]], [[AC:LiveActionTV]], and [[AC:Film]] [[AC:{{Film}}]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.



!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime and Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:Anime]] and [[AC:Manga]] categories?

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!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime and Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:Anime]] [[AC:{{Anime}}]] and [[AC:Manga]] [[AC:{{Manga}}]] categories?



!! Why is [[AC:Anime and Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:Comic Books]] categories?

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!! Why is [[AC:Anime and Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:Comic Books]] [[AC:ComicBooks]] categories?



!!Where should examples from {{Shakespeare}} go?

If there's a [[AC:Poetry]] category, list his poems there. If not, they can be listed under [[AC:Literature]], or you can make a [[AC:Poetry]] section.

His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:Theatre]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:Literature]], that is an error, and it should be moved.

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!!Where should examples from {{Shakespeare}} Creator/WilliamShakespeare go?

If there's a [[AC:Poetry]] category, list his poems there. If not, they can be listed under [[AC:Literature]], [[AC:{{Literature}}]], or you can make a [[AC:Poetry]] section.

His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:Theatre]]; [[AC:{{Theatre}}]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:Literature]], [[AC:{{Literature}}]], that is an error, and it should be moved.

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%%Preliminary --discuss in this forum thread: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13003481710A65055900

!! Is there any particular order the categories should go in?

We generally favour ordering the categories alphabetically, though it's OK to put the TropeNamer's category first. Also, if a trope is primarily associated with one medium, that medium should naturally go at the top.

However, in all cases, [[AC:Real Life]] always goes last, and [[AC:Other]] goes before [[AC:Real Life]] but after everything else. If you see an category in the wrong place, go ahead and move it.

!! What category do animated films go in?

They get their own category, namely [[AC:Film -- Animated]].

!! Why do animated films get their own category?

To avoid confusion over whether they belong under [[AC:Film]] or [[AC:Western Animation]] (or [[AC:Film]] or [[AC:Anime and Manga]], for Japanese animated films).

!! Couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Film]] category and a unified [[AC:Television]] category? Alternately, couldn't you solve that problem by having a unified [[AC:Live-Action]] category and a unified [[AC:Animation]] category?

The [[AC:Western Animation]], [[AC:Live Action TV]], and [[AC:Film]] categories are often very large already. Combining them into two larger categories would make it more difficult to find specific examples.

Also, trying to do the combination might lead to holy war between people who think the film vs. television distinction is more important and people who think the live-action vs. animation distinction is more important. It's much simpler just to make both distinctions.

!! Why is there a single [[AC:Anime and Manga]] category rather than separate [[AC:Anime]] and [[AC:Manga]] categories?

The relatively close relationship between anime and manga makes this more convenient. So much anime has a manga version and vice versa, and the adaptations are often so similar, that separating the two categories would lead to a lot of duplicated examples, as well as making it difficult for people who aren't familiar with an example to figure out which of the categories it should go in.

!! Why is [[AC:Anime and Manga]] its own category, rather than being combined with the [[AC:Animated Television]] and [[AC:Comic Books]] categories?

There are several reasons for this:
* It allows us to lump anime and manga together without lumping all animation and comics together -- the previous answer should explain to you why this is a good idea.
* Again, the combination would mean we were lumping categories together which are often very large already.
* Many TVTropes readers are either extremely interested in anime and manga or not at all interested in them. Separating them out makes it easier for these people to find the examples they're interested in, especially on pages with folders.

!!Where should examples from {{Shakespeare}} go?

If there's a [[AC:Poetry]] category, list his poems there. If not, they can be listed under [[AC:Literature]], or you can make a [[AC:Poetry]] section.

His plays are ''always'' listed under [[AC:Theatre]]; if you see one listed under [[AC:Literature]], that is an error, and it should be moved.

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