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Exactly what differentiates this from a run-off-the-mill woman who happens to enjoy and write Slash Fic, other than obsessiveness and focus upon anime/manga characters? And why isn't there an entry on the male equivalent, the dreaded Yuri Fanboy?

osh: I think the entry has merit, just that as mentioned the stereotype — which I think is called a fujoshi elsewhere — needs a better definition. Being into BL is already a fangirl stereotype, it's just limiting to be that specific in the trope name.

Citizen: We already have Fangirl, why make a split now? How old is this page? I didn't know we had another fangirl page... In any case, Fangirl covers this, so we should Cut List this page. (And moving on, what male isn't a 'yuri fanboy'? =P And didn't Ohno of Genshiken say something about there being no such thing as a girl who didn't like yaoi?)

Solandra: This entry actually came before Fangirl, if my memory serves me correctly. And honestly, yuri fanboys aren't half as scary as the yaoi fangirls out there, especially because it's considered natural for fanboys to drool and leer, but innocent-faced schoolgirls who fantasize about sex, much less unconventional sex, are funny perversions.

Who, me? No, no, I'm not a yaoi fangirl! Okay, I'm kind of one, but not the "rabid shipper of every pair of bishonen who say more than two sentences to each other," more like "female reader who happens to like unambiguously 'canon male-on-male pairings better than hetero ones for some weird reason, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have her hetero OT Ps too"!

Etrangere: I agree with the Unknown Troper above. Havign this entry with the *winkwink* real life yaoi fangirls are scaryyyyyy! tone is just a way to show this wiki is also written by males. Let's lay off the double standard. (And yes, I love slash, and no, I don't feel the need to say how much I'm different from "those fangirls". I don't think I need to justify myself.)

Citizen: Sooo... no one else considering lumping the two entries?

Guy Smiley: Slash-fanatic-who-pairs-everyone-and-anyone is annoying as hell, especially because they're prone to rants about how everyone who finds them annoying is clearly a homophobic jerk. There should be some mention of that somewhere, but not this article. It's the same annoyance level as the traditional Shipper, except with a hot-button moral/political issue involved and extreme defensiveness.

Ununnilium: Thus, cutting: "In real life, yaoi fangirls have a rather tainted reputation, painted as an Estrogen Brigade that takes over and ruins fandoms, and one of the leading causes of Die for Our Ship."

Fly: Cutting:

* Real Life: This troper was shocked when he found out that there are fangirls out there pairing actual seiyuu up. In hindsight, he shouldn't have been so surprised.
because it's a pointless personal anecdote with no real relevance to anything.

Rogue 7: Just want to say thanks to whoever posted that link to the Steve Blum/Vic Mig...not even going to try video. My respect for those guys just shot through the roof.


Crowley: How depressing...I come to TV Tropes to escape the crushing Fan Dumb of the internet, and the first thing in the Yaoi Fangirl discussion is "Mean homophobic men think all women who like yaoi are perverts! How sexist!" I despise the Fangirl that insists that anyone who doesn't like reading slash is a homophobe. I just don't like slash because it's not my taste; I'm just not into romance. And yet this gets me flamed (and at one point, physically attacked) whenever I say so.

Alrune: Well that's retarded from that girl.

On the other hand, yes. Men tend to be very hypocritical about Yaoi in general. Ever heard of Selective Squick? Basically, men think Girl on Girl Is Hot, especially pornographic action, but boy on boy...yeah. Even when there's no porn involved.

Women however usually keep mum when they see their men getting off Lesbians because they think you have the right to have fantasies that don't include them. However, women should ALWAYS fantasize about things that include their men. Strange, heh? And no, fantasizing about other women doesn't count because it's part of men's fantasies as well.

In short, women enjoying man-on-man romance and/or action arouse sexual jealousy in the Heterosexual man since it's THE ONE THING he has no access to.


Amber-Artist: I deleted the "woman wanting a gay son" quote from the quotes page. Maybe it's just me, but a mother getting aroused by her son is...disturbing. Switch the genders and you'll see what I mean. Can somebody choose a less squicky quote?

BTIsaac Regarding the upper remark. Double standard much?

Amber-Artist Not really. Honestly, a woman getting off to her son is just as disturbing in my eyes as a man getting off to his daughter.

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