This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Lale: That last sentence is supposed to be sarcastic, right?
Amethyst: Yes. (I thought of putting <sarcasm> statement</sarcasm> in the sentence, but I thought people would be able to figure out it was sarcasm on their own....at least I hope they will..)
Shire Nomad: Hmm, would the virgin sacrifice fall under this category?
Seth: Pretty much, gods seek/give power to those who are pure. Some just want to eat them. The Fushigi Yuugi example is a kind of virgin sacrifice in the end.
Scrounge: I still think it's odd not just that male virgins never, ever count, but that nobody ever even tries.
Lale: Male virgins would count; that's just plugging the A Man Is Not A Virgin Double Standard. But if they didn't count, it would be because "no one ever tries."
Seth: If i remember correctly the killer in Cherry Falls who only preyed on virgins did have a few male victims. Not sure if it counts but there really arent many examples.
Daibhid C: There's Discworld wizards, who have a strict regime of celibacy because "it's supposed to be bad for the magic". (Of course, Sourcery reveals that this isn't the real reason for the celibacy rule at all, but still...)
Kilyle: Okay, so the obvious subversion is for a kingdom to hire only guys for the job, thinking this avoids any mishaps with virgins touching the Sacred Relic, only to have the virgin guy guard touch it....
Lale: I'm no Star Wars otaku, but isn't there some rule about Jedis "never knowing love"? Is that in the physical or emotional sense, or both?
Jerrik: Emotional. Sex is fine, it's love that's forbidden.
Richard AK: The example about the webcomic featuring a virgin unicorn hunter isn't a subversion, since the traditional medieval fable about unicorns only approaching virgins has precisely to do with using virgins as lures
in order to successfully hunt unicorns. So I'm editing that example.
Greenygal: Deleted this from the Darkover entry: "Another explanation might be that she started it as a fantasy series and later turned it into Space Amish." Darkover's coexistence with the Terran Empire is in the earliest books of the series.
Removed this one: "Lyra Belacqua of the His Dark Materials trilogy loses her ability to read the alethiometer after she loses her virginity to Will Parry." Because: 1) it's false. 2) The amount of squick is way up there on the squick-o-meter, since the two characters in question are twelve.
Inhert: The Mai Otome nanomachines are mentionned as being destroyed by PSA. Someone added contradictory information beneath it, some time after.
