This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Citizen: My has this page grown since I first discovered it. ^_^;;
Korodzik: So what exactly is this for? Is it for placing random phrases that you thought of and that don't have a meaning? Or is it for when you think of a trope, but are too lazy to write it, so you put the name for it in here?
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: it's for when you have a good name, but no trope for it, ykttw is for when you havve a trope but you're lazy, in america
Seven Seals: It's... interesting. Although I have no idea how you'd use this, and I suspect I could easily fill this thing with dozens of interesting phrases that might someday be good for a trope — so naturally I won't.
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: why not? i could use one of these for a band name (i don't have a band, but if the name's good enough i might go get one)
Seth: Bwahahahahaha <- (Best way to put forward how much that made me laugh)
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: i'm glad that made you laugh, in america!
Silent Hunter: I remember someone being asked what the capital of North Dakota was in an The Amanda Show sketch.
Paul A: It was originally a Groucho Marx line, if I recall correctly.
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: i'm gonna go get a band! and i'm gonna call it Oh The Huge Manatee! i can't guarantee it'll be a rock band though...
Citizen: Scrounge, your "Sir Gilbert Humphrey Outlandishly Long Gag Name That Cannot Possibly Be Said All In One Breath And Most Likely Does Not Quite Fit On His Birth Certificate Either The Third here." entry violates the "no trope-length titles" thing as well as irritates me in hard-to-reach places. And you also seem to have created an actual page for it, to boot, though it doesn't have anything on it...
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: Screw The Duelists Ihave Money In America already has an article (just click my name), i'm taking it out of here
Scrounge: While I'll concede that the title's long, I'll point out that I didn't create the page, and I'm not entirely sure who did. That said, I'll try and figure out something to put for it, since it'd be rude to put it back on this page... I just wasn't aware of what constituted a "trope-length title". LATER: Er, there's a problem... edits to this page don't seem to stick. How do I delete the freakin' thing?
Seth: If you look at the link for that page you will see that a subdirectory like Seies/ has been created for it. I think this is because of how the servers handle red links - the server searched for the title , but because the name was so long, it accidentally created the subdirectory. Messing up the code. That is a sort of worrying glitch if that is the case.
Scrounge: Whoah whoah whoah, back the truck up... Are you saying I broke the wiki? Because if you are... Well, I gues I might have, but not in any really horrible way. It's not my fault, honest! How was I supposed to know? Please, I'm too pretty to go to Wiki Jail! Or too ugly! Pick whichever works, just spare me my life!
{{xwingace]]:Deus Ex Machinery sounds like a good name for all sorts of little bits of tech that get used for whatever they're needed for in the episode (I'm thinking the Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver and the TARDIS here) even if that particular function was never mentioned or established before. Or is this already a trope somewhere? (It's not quite the same as Green Lantern Ring or Plot-Sensitive Items), though it may well be simple a synonym of Applied Phlebotinum.
Citizen: Take that new-trope discussion to the YKTTW.
Sikon: I believe it's covered by Magic Tool.
Seth: Question, i remember Fast Eddie saying once that red links are the single most intensive thing for our servers. Maybe these should be un-wiki worded.
Citizen: Yeah, not much point making such a long list of wiki links when none of them have pages by definition...
Seth: Well in the YKTTW Style page, Eddie said that red links were pretty memory intensive - so i went ahead and un-wiki worded these just in case. I also clicked a few ads - because people need to click ads and help pay for the servers :D
Whogus The Whatsler: "Manny, until now we scraped along the ground like rats, but from now on, we soar like eagles. Yeah. Like eagles...on pogo sticks!"
(copied from Goggles Do Nothing Discussion for good measure)
Tanto: As near as I can tell, this "trope" is just someone taking a name they liked out of the bin and writing something — anything — that even remotely fits it. Which annoys me — it's a good name.
Cassius335: Yeah... Tanto, Twas me. Sorry, I thought that's what names in the Title Bin were for. Besides, The name just rang a chord so strong I couldn't resist. Tasmin pretty much already said what I was thinking: In Digimon, Goggles pretty much are the symbol of the leader (and courage and so on).
Morgan Wick: The bin's description makes it sound like it's the point, but it's supposed to be a place to save good titles so they can be brought up. Even to the extent that that is the point, it's supposed to serve as a brainstorm session for good tropes. Use YKTTW to ensure you're not simply being a fool and proposing a stretch or duplicating an existing trope.
Or am I completely off base?
Tanto: I don't think so. It seems fairly self-evident that any entries coming out of the Title Bin have to be worthy tropes in and of themselves. I'd hate to see a good name wasted on a reach.
Tamsin: Should it be "Bank Full Of Nuns" or "A Bank Full Of Nuns"? It's been changed back and forth five times...
Citizen: Yeah, that was me. I try to keep "the" and "a" off the beginning of titles if there's not a clear reason for them to be there. (I do enough renaming as it is, as Seth might attest, but let's not get off track here. =P) (Scrounge being the one who keeps adding it back.)
Ununnilium: This is one place where I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Citizen.
Tamsin: Well, I've added versions with and without the indefinite article, in a vague and no doubt ill-fated attempt to keep everyone happy.
Citizen: We have enough as it is, we don't need variations that slight.
Seven Seals: I see, this is where the bad puns go to die. People, if you're chucking something in here, at least try to imagine some future trope it could be used on. "Shaved by the Bell"? "Made Of Waffles"? The n-th variation on "Gondor Calls For X"? If any of these are ever used it'll be in-spite-of, not because-of.
Also, pay a little attention to overlap if you're adding a title here. Don't go for "Frozen Man" if we already have Human Popsicle (because even if they become different tropes, we'll never keep them apart), and if we have Spoony Bard, we don't need "You Spoony Bard".
Finally, if "Silly Pun, Often On Another Trope Name" isn't a sign to you that the page is becoming over-indulgent, I don't know what is.
Seth: Shaved By The Bell could make a good page on those porn movie parodies that pop up from time to time. The canonical one being Shaving Ryan's Privates, they are used as quick jokes on various TV series See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictitious_films
- for a quick list. It doesn't have the parody examples though.
Examples:
- Buffay the Vampire Layer - Friends
- Good Will Humping - Friends
- In & Out & In - Friends
- Add Momma to the Train - Family Guy
- Assablanca - Family Guy
- "You've Got Male Genitalia" as a parody of You've got mail on Family guy.
- Shaving Private Ryan - Family guy (Shaving Ryan's Privates is an actual film)
- The Purple Head of Cairo
All from two shows but I'm sure Wiki Magic could make something happen. Though just for how famous of an example it is, we should probably call it Shaving Ryans Privates after the incredibly successful gay porn film that follows the form of this trope.
Seven Seals: "Shaving Ryan's Privates", yes. "Shaved by the Bell", no. That you can get to the former by association from the latter doesn't change the fact that it's a rubbish pun.
But it does prove the point that it's not a worthless title, since it made you think of something. I'll let it rest at that.
Seth: Things like this are just for fun, the point is less coming up with ideas more making someone giggle if they read them.
Ununnilium: Indeed. I'm actually the one who added "Silly Pun, Often On Another Trope Name", and I'm enjoying this immensely. People will get tired of this soon enough - no need to rush it along.
Seven Seals: I'm just testy because the page is encroaching on what I consider my one major redeeming quality as a troper — coming up with good titles. What will I have left if pages like these take that away, huh? A snappy prose style? A gift for original turns of phrase? A tireless dedication to expansion? SURELY YOU JEST. Stop putting me out of a job!
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: you don't have a job, you live in your mother's basement, it's nothing to be ashamed of, i do too, but denial is not the answer
Seven Seals: Actually, I'm Joss Whedon, so get off my back.
OK, so I'm not. But what if I had been, huh? You would've blown your one chance to be an extra.
And I don't even have a basement, so nyah.
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: there is no way you could be joss whedon, for I am joss whedon
Seth: We discovered this a little while back - There is a little Joss Whedon in all of us.
Seth: Do people really need to be so hard on Bruce, it is his only catchphrase.
Looney Toons: Does this mean that Michael J. Fox is the evil Anti-Joss?
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: no, joss is the evil anti-fox. you see, they were both cloned from a combination of fox mulder and lola bunny's DNA, but something went horribly wrong, we're not sure what it is though
then after that we decided that the way to go was to clone different people, so we got richard o'brian and combined his DNA with luis buenelle's (i think that is how you spell his name), shakespeare's, and neill innes'; that is how the world received the gift of satoshi konn (that is how you spell his name, right?)
we tried one more experiment after that, to clone chuck norris and mr. T, unfortunatally mr. T pitied the chains that were holding him and chuck, needless to say, what followed was a lot of roundhouse kicking, fool pitying, and universe warping (which is how this wiki was created), it was awful... :wimpers: th-th-there was. so. much. blood. but luckily i made it out okay, in america
Seth: Okay that's enough of that, it's gotten far too silly.
screw-the-duelists-i-have-money-in-america: actually I think it's not nearly silly enough
Scrounge: For Pete's sake, will you people stop removing the A from "A Bank Full of Nuns" and "A Wicked Cold"? They're FROM things!
Citizen: From what, then?
Ununnilium: Yeah, you could have mentioned that. >> Without context, it just seems like an unnecessary indefinite article.
Also, why'd you take out El Goonish Shrine and Fire Walk With Me?
Citizen: Regarding those two titles, I'm pulling up results from song lyrics, like Barenaked Ladies. Even if so, the indefinite article is still unnecessary here.
Scrounge: Regarding the first part, Uni, I didn't see the discussion earlier... I'm just noticing int now, and feeling stupid, but still, I added the titles, and I want the "A" there, moreso on "A Wicked Cold" to make sure it can't be read as "Very Cold As Said in Horrible Late-Ninties Slag"
Regarding the second part, because this isn't the "Series In Need Of a Page Bin". Especially El Goonish Shive, since it's already listed on the Notable Webcomics page and I was under the impression we don't give a Webcomic its own page, and while I might not agree with that, I don't want to rock the boat. Otherwise, the only thing that'd stop me from going ahead and pulling the trigger for El Goonish Shive myself is the fact that I can't accurately sum it up. I'm horrible at summaries, and anone who's read El Goonish Shive would know it's not an easy thing to put into Cliff's Notes form. That said, if someone else wants to start the page, I'll be glad to help with it.
Kizor: I've restored Fire Walk With Me, since I don't think that it's inseparably tied to the series, and because it has a level of helluva coolness that we can't so callously disregard.
Nezumi: Scrounge, Kizor, it was El Goonish Shrine , not Shive. Thus, it's a silly take-off of a series title, not a series title itself, and fair game for the bin.
Ununnilium: What Nezumi said.
Scrounge: Sorry... I wan't looking close enough. I saw Fire Walk With Me on there already, and my mind just misread that as another title and I iced it. Sorry for the trigger-happy.
Ununnilium: Not a title, but something that would make a hell of a good page quote:
"Aren't you scared?" "Oh, yeah. But while I'm mouthing off, I'm Feisty Heroine. Nothing bad happens to Feisty Heroine."
Tangent128: Maybe we should create a Quote Bin?
Seth: If Loony Toons puts in his massive list of quotes that would be awesome. I Have a few that ive suggested for use elsewhere - i say Quote Bin is a good idea. (Unrelated - what happened to Screw The Duellists? Did he just change his name?)
YYZ: I believe he calls himself Being X now.
Looney Toons: Seth, you do realize we're talking about 3.238 gigabytes of quotes? This would quickly become the Quotes Site With TV Tropes On The Side.
Korodzik: A Quote Bin is a terrific idea. I already have one or two that might go in there.
Citizen: Added "Overtook The Plot"... Isn't it sad? =/
Added "Happy Fun Death Hour", a name Amethyst made for a page that no longer exists, see Nightmare Fuel Discussion for details.
Added "Behold, Pixie!" on the hope that this picture
◊ might find a home. =P
Egak: I shot a man in Reno, I really do like pie?
Next Door To Alice: Er, belatedly: Followed the apparent derailment and kicked it to the MST 3 K track. (Search 'Loving Lovers Pearl' on You Tube if curious.)
Seth: I Know Mortal Kombat And You're No Mortal Kombat Made Of Win
Ununnilium: Moved up "Online Bumper Stickers", because, first of all, it was screwing up the page history, and second of all, there was no good reason for it to be down there.
Enemy Mime has been used. Moving it.
Egak Sorry for my sudden connection lapse eating most of the page... And thanks, Andyroid for fixing it.
—-
Scrounge: Removed Mars Needs Women, as it already had a page before it was added to the bin. Might go back and do the same for Enemy Mime later, but I'll have to sift through the page history. SLIGHTLY LATER: Nope, can't find when it was added. Leaving it.
—-
Nezumi: ARGH! I was about to add Ass Kicking Pope, but someone beat me to it. x.x; Eh. I have to think of more.
Umptyscope — Dare I say we might need some... um... guidelines? Maybe...
- No adding an entry under another entry unless it could stand on it's own as a title. (Thus, no No It Isnt type of entries.)
- Ditto no continuation of song lyrics, etc unless they could be titles. (Thus, no Show Them All The Beauty They Possess Inside under the most recent I Believe That Children Are Our Future one, etc.)
Remember, this page is meant to hold titles needing tropes. All the nifty-cool punnery is an unintended consequence...
(ducking the upcoming onslaught)
Seth (On another PC): I think you are missing the joke. A good 99.9% of these wont be used as titles. But they will make a casual reader giggle. Let people add what they want - personaly i love the list of oxymorons that are growing under "No You are an oxymoron". Most of them can#t be used as titles but they are funny.
-Hippy Talk- Dont try and lay your guidelines and rules on us man.
Umptyscope: (shrug)
Citizen: I'm with you, Umpty, but I've long since given up hope for this page. Most of the titles are crap with no intention of ever being used. It's a farking Title Bin, but whatever.
Nezumi: Eh. I'm not the most unbiased participant... but I say leave it as is for now. Text is cheap as dirt in bandwidth and server space, and I doubt it's grown to a size where that's a serious issue yet, so there's no pressing need to change it... and it's:
a) Genuinely fun to try to think up entries for and to read.
b) Too hard to determine what can "stand" as a title—the tropers have such a tendency towards the clever and bizarre that it's hard to predict what will actually be used. Lord knows that if I was trying to guess ones that couldn't possibly be titles, Your Bed A Splode would've been high up on my list, but there it is.
Pro-Mole: Just a question: where do I put "The X" titles? In T or in X?
Deux Hero: Not Wearing Pants was a complete coincidence acctualy, not taken from the bin.
Ban All Daggers —Based off of a quote. "That's it. If I'm backstabbed one more time, I'm banning all daggers."
