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This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.


Oh God, Nineties Punk. I can see it now. Instead of long trenchcoats they wear plaid flannel shirts unbuttoned over t-shirts. Their fighting style is drunken-masterish, but instead of being drunk they slouch and whine about their parents. In addition to putting as little effort into life as possible, they conquer the Internet from their BB Ses over 9600 baud modems. All of this is done to an alternative rock soundtrack: Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Live, etc. Any geeky nerd character needed for applied phlebotinum is modeled after Steve Urkel.

From YKTTW

HeartBurn Kid: Just remembered another name for Wild West punk...

Ununnilium: Haha, I like.

Later: Aero Punk doesn't seem very punk-ish; both Tale Spin and Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow were fairly shiny and heroic. I don't think it really belongs here.

Also, are there any actual examples of Diesel Punk? It just seems like "inbetween WWII and the late 80s, plus an odd bit about walking Panzers".

  • Uh, Bioshock would pretty much be Diesel Punk with a little steam thrown in for good measure.

Even later: Okay, so taking those both out for the moment.

  • Aero Punk, often centering around either WWII, WWI, or the golden age of propeller planes and airships in between. Think Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow, Tale Spin, or Crimson Skies.
  • Diesel Punk, set in the mid 20th century; internal combustion rules the day, but there's no real computing power. WWII might happen in there somewhere, only the Panzers might walk into battle.
    • Andyzero Would Steambot Chronicles count? Despite the name, it's obvious in the plot these replace modern automobiles, it's like the 50's, but with mecha.

Daviot I'd like to add to the name game, with Sandalpunk, that is, Greco-Roman Society mixed with Clock or Steampunk, usually based on alternate histories in which Hero(n) of Alexandria's Aeolipile was developed into a full-out steam engine.

Sci Vo: Dang it! I made it into an index, which was useful; then I put the titles into asscaps, which looked good, but broke the index. So, removed the asscaps.

Fast Eddie: A change of style, not function... I'll try a thang. //later: That seems to work.

Sci Vo: I see what you did there. I'll have to remember that: bolding doesn't break indexing.

Morgan Wick: But italics does? That doesn't make sense. Bolding uses the exact same markup as italics but with an added character on each end.

Sci Vo: No no, I put them in asscaps, not italics, since it looked good when somebody did it to Meta Trope Intro.

Morgan Wick: I wasn't referring to here. I was referring to elsewhere. (mumbles and grumbles about how everyone is a bunch of thickheaded idiots who need to have everything explained to them - and who think the fact that I'm insulting them should automatically be taken personally even though I'm not putting them any lower than anyone else)

Sci Vo: Wait, so italics actually do break indexing? That doesn't make sense (which is what you said).


Sci Vo: It appears that the index is no longer working with the bolding. I'll take it off.
Meems: Didn't Bio Punk used to be in here? Cyberpunk with genetic engineering instead of cybernetics. (I'm mostly just mentioning it 'cause I have a webcomic that uses it.)

Biltwick: Is there a term for world views based around urban subcultures (graffiti, music)? Examples would be 'Air Gear', 'Jet Set Radio' and 'the World Ends with You'. Perhaps Rave Punk? Graffiti Punk?

  • savage: I'm probably opening a whole can o' worms here, but I'd call that... Cyberpunk. Or at the absolute very least, I'd say that applying a punk sensibility to a setting which is by its very nature related to the punk subculture is redundant, so it's actually, I dunno, Older Than They Think? I can't think of a way to describe it except that it would -literally- be "Punk Punk". Which would require a renaming of the article.

Bob: Would "Beach Punk" work as the Tales of Legendia-esque variant of Ocean Punk... where the focus is on the high seas After the End but there is still a lot of land left?

{Georgie}: Following on from the discussion in YKTTW linked to at the top of the page, some of the Steampunks over on the Gaslamp Bazaar forum are collectively calling the various genres and movements subject to the Punk naming convention "-punk" (promounced "dash punk", or sometimes "*-punk". Which is irrelevant here because we already have a title, but y'know. Someone might find the information useful. I other news, the Clock Punk section says that Steam power has yet to show up in Discworld. Since Small Gods that's not entirely true...but it happened there in more of a Sandal Punk way than Steampunk anyhow.


Nornagest: There was a point here, but it's getting silly.

Inkblot: Seriously. There's a subgenre on here based around a single species of plant.


Daibhid C: The Ocean Punk description advises readers to "See Water World". This is very bad advice. Do not see Water World, if you can possibly avoid it.


hoodiecrow: I've made some substantial edits to this page to 1) make it a real index page, 2) clarify the genrefication, 3) improve the explanation a bit (it was more ironic than illuminating, IMHO).

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