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Adonic Meki: Is this trope named after Kadaj turning into Sephiroth in Advent Children? I can't think of any time when Sephiroth himself did something like this, so that's my best guess. Either way, wouldn't a general or TV-based name be better for a TV Wiki, rather than one based on a game/movie?
Oh, and osh, while a sentence or two explaining where a trope name comes form isn't required in a trope entry, it is highly encouraged.
Dark Sasami: Sephiroth does do this—becoming Bizarro Sephiroth, then Safer Sephiroth—at the end of FFVII. (I looked it up, I'm not that big a nerd.)
You have a point about the name, but it would hardly be the only non-TV-related page name here, and it is certainly more recognizable than any given example from TV. Also, it's a rather video-gamey thing for a villain to do, so much so that it's hard for a show not to look like a video game when it does this.
The only confusion that might spring from the title is that some might, as I did, initially assume it to mean the movie trope in which everything big and dramatickey is accompanied by a ripoff of O Fortuna.
Adonic Meki: Ahh, true. It'd been so long since I played FFVII, I had forgotten all about his transformations.
Seth: I really don't get why the Breath Of Fire page was deleted, it is such a great example of almost every fantasy and RPG trope. But the cut list/bag of holding says it was deleted because it was a drive by entry?
Ununnilium: Sounds like someone came by and put some random crap in there, rather than an actual entry. You might want to give it a "real" entry.
What was the villain's name in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?- this happened to him. Are there any examples from literature or mythology?
Harpie Siren: It didn't happen to Judge Doom, he was always in that form... he was just wering a disguise.
Were Josh Peck Prince: You mean like how Limburger in Biker Mice From Mars disguised himself as a human buisnessman?
Ununnilium: Took out:
Then again, Torpedo Girl is an "Idiot Killer" designed to fight Hajikelists (like Bo-bobo and Don Patchi).
...because it doesn't really have anything to do with the trope.
Scrounge: It seems to me that this trope comes in two forms, the "My True Form" version from within and the "Self Mutation" version from without. Is this distinction important?
Just a question: is there any trope for the opposite of this: a large monster turning into somethign mroe human; or a villain losing the majority of his superpowers but still being able to battle?
A: Bishōnen Line for the first thing, I think.
Austin: I want to say that I dislike the title of this article. Most trope titles here are either self-explanatory or are clever when you see where they came from (The Inmates Are Running The Asylum). But this is a trope that's so common, I think it's a bad idea to name it after one specific example. "My True Form" or some variation of would've worked better, in my opinion.
Nedata: Agreed
Were Josh Peck Prince: So is it only villains who do it or do good guys get to do it too?
- Avatar The Last Airbender: In the Grand Finale: In a rare occurrence, this happens to the hero. He doesn't transform or anything, but it still has to be seen to be believed.
Lale: Wrong trope. No shapeshifting involved.
TTD: So after several months of having this trope on my watchlist, proofreading new examples, adding some of my own, and so forth... I eventually had to parody it.
(You might want to read the story from the beginning though.)
C Trombley: Oops! Turns out Amblin Entertainment is owned by Disney.
fleb: Pic is too huge.
This is a bit off topic, but that concept art of the reject Sauron/angelic thingy with the eyes? WE WANTS LINKS NOW...
