This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Slatz Grobnik: I'm taking out the Values Dissonance talk from the entry and sticking it here. It doesn't really bear scrutiny to either the text or the history. Yes, it puts women as sex-mad as men. Yes, women were thought to be inferior (...well, in Athens, and not every other Tuesday). But what made it ridiculous then is what makes it ridiculous now, and, arguably, why it's a trope in the first place. But someone check me if I'm totally off-base here.
Now, back in those days, women were considered to be the unquenchable sex hounds of the species
The really funny thing is that Aristophanes was writing into a Double Standard too, but in the opposite direction: the Greeks, like the Romans, the Bible, everyone really before 200 years ago, believed that women were slaves to their baser natures. Your average male's response to this play would have been, "Ha, like a woman could control herself long enough to make this work!" - this was originally intended as a ridiculous what-if-scenario comedy.
Shrikesnest: That Unfortunate Implications pothole on the front is pissing me off. Obviously, obviously there's a difference between not being in the mood because you're upset over an argument or just not wanting sex for awhile, and spitefully withholding physical intimacy from your lover to make a point. Obviously.
It's still a childish and backhanded way to win an argument. This is like a man saying, "I'm right because technically I own all of your favorite DV Ds and all of your favorite food, and I'm locking them away in this cupboard until this argument is over." Except that's placing physical intimacy on the level of watching your favorite movie. Physical intimacy is physically and emotionally important for both men and women. If you're someone's lover and you're not the kind of immature charicature of pissed-off women found in country music songs, you have to concede that there's emotional abuse in purposefully withholding sex from someone you love for a long period of time.
I don't want to turn the main page into an edit war. I just want to remove that pothole. Does anyone object, not to my beliefs (which surely by the rules of the internet and troper demographics, many of you do) but to me taking down that potholed "Think about that for a second."?
