This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Working Title: All Bisexuals: From YKTTW
Twin Bird: Hmm...this one isn't really a fanfic trope. It's apparent in some fanfics where it isn't in the series, but by that criterion, all of The Catalogue would be fanfic tropes The trope here refers to a general lack of gender as a romantic/sexual criterion among the cast, and of the expectation of that criterion. It's the author's prerogative, of course, as is all of The Catalogue, but it's noticeable enough that it's worth a trope.
I've used the word "criterion" an improbable number of times here.
Susan Davis: So, why is Strawberry Panic here, and not in Everyone Is Gay? Absolutely no one in the entire series displays any sign of being interested in men....
Twin Bird: Because Everyone Is Gay is a fanfic trope. The names are a little misleading, but the point over there is that the fans turn up the homosexuality, and this trope is, well, "you people and your quaint little categories." No one shows a disinterest in men, either...or really acknowledges the existence of men...
Susan Davis: Right. So, absent any hint of attraction to men, that makes them not an example.
Kaybor: I'm taking out this bit:
- Metal Gear Solid. Prove me wrong.
Because that is not how we do examples around here. Or anywhere.
Edward: Regarding Metal Gear Solid, I revised the examples because only Volgin & Raikov and Vamp & Scott Dolph are confirmed couples. Everyone else, such as Big Boss and Solid Snake, has merely subtext or Memetic Mutation going for them.
Hazel: There seem to be two discrete types here, one of universal gender-blindness (like the Kushiel books and Torchwood) and one where all women are bi (and no points for guessing the gender and sexual orientation of the author). Maybe these should be separated. The Star Trek mirror universe can't really be compared to Torchwood, can it?
Twin Bird: It looks like the Star Trek example is the only example of the second, though. Maybe it should be removed?
Nearly every webcomic in existance. Seriously.
Twin Bird: Learn to spell "existence." Third conjugation, dearie. Also, the consensus of the "No Bisexuals in webcomics" debate said that they were nearly all in transgender comics...which really isn't true, since those were apparently the only comics the person who wrote that had heard of. I'm mostly just blathering because when I saw this comment I had to comment on that debate. And the spelling seriously is it that hard to spell such a common word...at least, given where we are, you didn't use The Hy-phen.
Honestly, though, I would say most webcomics, at least the fairly "normal" ones (high fantasy or Planet Eris comedy) have one or two for tokenism and/or fanservice.
Dentaku: Anything by CLAMP? I didn't see any bisexuality in Angelic Layer.
Haven: Took out a line about V:tM being the second game and V:tR being the first, because it's the other way around; Masquerade is old-World Of Darkness, and Requiem is new.
vijeno: There's a point in Rocky Horror Picture Show: "Well, Janet is shown to be bisexual, albeit she only realises due to the sexual awakening she and Brad undergo. She fantasises about Magenta and Columbia (along with the males) during "Touch-A-Touch-A-Touch-A-Touch Me" and then in the pool-orgy sequence, we clearly see her making out with Columbia."
- This raises the interesting question of When does a character start to be Bi? In real life, I kissed a guy once, but I consider myself totally hetero (the kiss didn't do anything for me). So, how about fictional characters? Does a heterosexual become bisexual by ONE sexual encounter with the same sex? Given that we have no idea how it works out for Janet?
C Banana: I removed the part about this being an anime trope. While there is more Ho Yay and Les Yay in anime series, that's not the same as saying Everyone Is Bi. Also, there's far more Western examples of this trope listed on the page than Japanese examples.
