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Author: LordTNK

Dec 8th 2008 at 10:50:33 PM

"I vote to keep everything. The point of this wiki is more to be entertaining than to be a serious reference for stuff, and most of the entries for Sues have some kind of justification for why they're like that. Not to say that all of those characters are Sues, but a case exists for all of them being Sues. Sure, we could get obsessive about making sure all the Mary Sue examples are 100% accurate, but it's not like all of our entries for other tropes are accurate, either- people get obsessive about making their favorite series fit every positive trope there is, or their persona berzerk button series fit every negative trope there is. The Sues aren't the only problem."

The thing isn't whether examples are %100 accurate. It's that so many are barely even 50% accurate. And examples have to fit properly. Not exactly, but properly. We have few rules (mostly technical), but we also have agreed upon guidelines, and not bashing anyone is a pretty strong guideline here. See ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. A lot of the examples use more points a troper doesn't like. That isn't justification. That's bashing.

I propose another option: Cut all but examples most of us agree on. That will be just a handful, but it's better than hundreds of canonical characters, which would ruin all those shows if that were true.

Mary Sue warps the show to be around her. Any example that doesn't have warping should get cut, if we do nothing else here. And just claiming in the example there is warping isn't good enough.