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Author: helterskelter

Apr 14th 2013 at 6:36:49 PM

"I apologize for frustrating you"

Don't apologize. I didn't realize the emotionally dangerous thing wasn't intrinsically understood. :) I thought of it as a no-brainer after referencing a bunch of love triangles, but I realize that the word usually implies physical danger.

All three of those points are true--however...The reason I don't call the lifestyle part of the trope necessary is precisely because the Scoundrel doesn't ''always'' threaten the chooser. It's incredibly common that he does, but that's not always the case. It's simply a point in society that male and female characters, even when given the same roles, and portrayed differently. In the case of "edgy love interest", a Scoundrel can be a rogue, lecherous, defiant, a rebel, etc. Veronicas usually ''aren't''. A Veronica can be sassy, sexy, sultry, {{Tsundere}}. It's simply the way men and women are treated in a work, which is the basis for this trope. A Betty is demure, a Gentleman never is. If he's shy, it's in a goofy, lovable way, as opposed to the quiet, cute way. Do you see what I mean? This is something that's hard for me to express in the trope itself because it requires me giving a lot of examples of how they're different.

"for example, Cinderella, such that one of the two love interests offers an improvement in society, or only ones that would be a loss for the heroine?"

Hm...good question. Honestly, I think if it starts getting complicated, and roles seem to be switched up, we're not looking at this trope in the first place, but RichSuitorPoorSuitor. Perhaps I should add some emphasis, since there seems to be a good trend with examples that start getting confusing because they belong there, not here.

"Is there still intention to make this like Betty And Veronica in that it can apply to both genders, or has that been discarded? If so, should we make the same change to Betty And Veronica?"

I'm thinking now it won't actually help discourage misuse, which was why I suggested it in the first place. BettyAndVeronica currently includes all genders, but it's problem is that someone always tries to identify a Betty and a Veronica, even where none exist. I was hoping to dissuade people from shoehorning every love triangle into this trope.