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Author: porschelemans

Feb 11th 2013 at 4:33:50 PM

I think something should be added to the main text about how examples should only be given when there are significant change to the music or lyrics. As has been previously mentioned, some of the examples listed are only minor changes, and it's hard to say where this should end unless you set (rough) guidelines on what is significant enough to be counted as an example of this trope.

Dave Gilmour playing a longer guitar solo at the end of [[TheWall Comfortably Numb]] does not count as this, but PinkFloyd drastically changing the structure of Astronomy Domine between the studio version on Piper At The Gates Of Dawn and the live version on Ummagumma (the first verse is reprised, among other things. I haven't heard that version in a while.) does count.

Similarly, if a musician changes a line like "I love you and I want to get married to you" to "I love you and I want to live my life with you" in a life performance, that is not significant enough to be a proper example. But if a musician changes a verse going:

"I love you and I want to get married to you

To live out my life and have my children with you

To go on holidays and long walks on the beach

But above all else I want you to feel happy"

"I love you and I want to live my life with you

But I just can't get on with your cheese addiction

The smell of cheese keeps me awake late in the night

And brings on an insomnia I just can't fight"

then there has been a significant enough change in lyrics for the example to be applied. I know there is NoSuchThingAsNotability, but this could so easily be flooded with such vague examples that it may become difficult to pick out the extremely significant ones from the "saxophone solo thirty seconds longer" type examples.

Not putting in boundaries on what can be included also produces the question of what truly counts of this trope. Does a singer messing up and forgetting a line count? No. Even if they quickly warp it into something humorous, it's just them [[AdLib ad libbing]].