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Author: 69BookWorM69

Aug 26th 2013 at 1:47:39 AM

^ For the record, a meme is [[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme"an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture."]] [[http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/who-said-love-the-sinner-hate-the-sin The original kernel of the idea "love the sinner, hate the sin", by the way, comes from St. Augustine]]. For [[http://redemptionpictures.com/2013/06/20/i-cant-say-love-the-sinner-hate-the-sin-anymore/ a more recent Christian take on how it's used heavily against gays, go here]].

I know none of the points the "love the sinner, hate the sin" meme (as applied to homosexuality) rests upon are universally held (actually, not all religious people condemn homosexuality), but '''religious objections to homosexuality''' often do rest on these ideas about the purpose of sex (or its proper use) and the fallen nature of man. (I could go do more research about doctrinal specifics if you want, but I'm trying to answer the "wall-of-text" objections.) People who believe such things don't consider themselves to be hateful, and they really do think heaven and hell are real and will be run on their deity's terms, so they really do think they're doing queer people a kindness by trying to save them from themselves. Some of them ''actually believe the demonic possession part'' as well, and you can find reports and videos of people subjecting themselves or their children to exorcisms to get rid of gay demons. That's why they object to being considered bigoted in the matter.

The ValuesDissonance enters the picture because other people '''don't believe those things'''. Just as much of the controversy over the recent Russian law against what it terms "homosexual propaganda" revolves around critics' claims that it's unfair to force gay people to be closeted in public and counterclaims from the Russian authorities and their supporters that 1) they're protecting children from exposure to something unnatural and 2) demanding that gay people refrain from self-identifying or engaging in any display of affection (while straight people are not equally limited) is not discriminatory.