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Author: pokedude10

Dec 27th 2014 at 6:50:41 PM

Nemuru: Yes, making a proper noun the first "something" is a great idea. But that also means I'd have to enforce the trope as a grammatical formula. I don't want to do that because it grinds up against NoNewStockPhrases.

Solip: Exactly! And keeping this from being, or sounding like, a stock phrase is going to be the hardest part.

I'm afraid the complexity of the core definition could cause misunderstandings of what the trope is. On Ykttw, most of us seem to understand it fine, but we're experienced at recognizing trope meanings, on Main/ it might cause confusion. Even if we don't use a formula, there are so many qualifiers it would be tricky to add examples that fit.

I'm going pause working on this until after the new year, then bump it again. This really needs two things for it to move forward towards being launchable. 1). Examples that do '''not''' follow the phrase structure of "the something of somethings". 2). Suggestions for a more descriptive, and less awkward name that doesn't make it sound like a stock phrase.

The examples will help set the breadth of what the trope covers. If we can get some more examples that don't follow the exact phrase, then it can stay as is. But if we just get more of the same... Well, we'll have to work that out as to whether it's too narrow. Finalizing the name somewhat depends on how wide the definition is.