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Author: SolipSchism

Mar 9th 2015 at 10:53:13 AM

* Re: the Breaking Bad example ('''spoilers''' in this bullet, of course), the identity of the character is central to the example, as they're lovers and he feels responsible for her death for reasons I won't get into. Since Jesse only ever gets romantically involved with, I think, two characters over the course of the show, there aren't many options for who it could be (and the first is dead by the time he meets the second, which narrows it further--if a troper has seen the second, then they already know about the first and have seen the example).
* As for Mnemosyne, I didn't comment on it, and to be honest I think it does fit, but it's written very confusingly.
* I'm on the fence about the Doctor Who example, but I think I would include it for the following reason:
** First, I just realized this trope description doesn't say anything about the act of using/opening/losing/letting go of the keepsake, which is not required, but often happens in dramatic examples, and has tons of plot significance and character growth. Thus examples of this trope are made stronger when the keepsake is eventually "used". Now, with that said...
** (Mild '''spoilers''' for one episode in this bullet) In the Who example, Clara keeps the leaf not only because it caused her parents to fall in love, but also because it reminds her of her deceased mother. The leaf is eventually used to defeat a monster that eats memories, or something; the leaf is associated with all of Clara's memories of her parents, ''and'' the infinite possibilities of what might have been if her mother hadn't died, and the infinitude of thoughts causes the monster to implode. Or something.
** One other note is that it's not uncommon to save leaves or flowers, but the fact remains that they ''are'' highly perishable objects that do not naturally last long, so I'd say such an object would count if it's being used as a memento or keepsake. Now, a character whose hobby is pressing flowers wouldn't count if the flowers are only being kept for their own sake. But if it's a single object and it is a keepsake, not a hobby, it should count, I think.
* Re: red links, there's no harm in keeping a RedLink on a YKTTW, just remove it if this trope launches first. As long as the RedLink isn't on the live wiki, it's harmless.
* Re: "intercept", see the Wikipedia page for "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercept_message intercept messages]]". Specifically, the word "intercept" here means you are not actually reaching the number you have dialed; you are being "intercepted" by an automated system that informs you that the number is disconnected. But more importantly, it's the technical term for that type of message. I mean, it probably wouldn't hurt to remove it, but it does make the example ''slightly'' more technically correct.
* If the ''Brother's Price'' example is threadbare or otherwise not really serviceable by ordinary standards, it could count, even if the family has unusually frugal attitudes about saving old clothing, but if it's in decent enough shape that a normal person would keep using it, I don't think it would count.