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Author: raithe

Apr 10th 2013 at 3:26:50 PM

I didn't mean to suggest that I was assuming literally every love triangle with two guys was this trope.  I was using the RichSuitorPoorSuitor example to ask what happens when the personality traits aren't linked to the lifestyles.  Thank you for clearing that up.  I do wonder if this is too similar to RichSuitorPoorSuitor with the lifestyles part.

The point about the lifestyles mattering more than the person should not have been so far-reaching, but I think it is still a valid point that this brings up UnfortunateImplications if the personalities don't matter.  As written, the trope suggests that the woman will often weigh pros and cons based solely on the lifestyles, not the people involved in each.  That says to me that she is something of a gold digger.  Another way to put it might be something along the lines of the lifestyle being one of a number of factors, which is not usually true in BettyAndVeronica.

I still think this needs a better definition of danger.  Is it is not solely about the lifestyle (calm and protected vs. wild and dangerous), then what defines "safe vs. danger"?  EDIT: Does dangerous mean the guy is a badass?  That the heroine picking him will put her in danger, from him or from his enemies or career path?  Is a guy more "dangerous" if he challenges her preconceived notions about, say, his species?

A man being feminine may be a good rule of thumb if this trope applies in Yaoi, but it is not clear to me that this trope will only have male examples in Yaoi works.  That was more what the question was getting at.  EDIT: Reread and realized I was unclear.  What I mean was why does the man being more feminine make this trope more likely.  See the edit above, as regards danger.

I only mentioned CockFight because if this trope goes through, CockFight should be removed from the list in SpearCounterpart and possibly updated so it does not compare itself to BettyAndVeronica.

Also, WrongGuyFirst may be useful as shorthand in there somewhere