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Author: Koveras

Jun 10th 2017 at 11:44:56 AM

@Getta: Yes, exactly.

@Generality: Your current laconic reads "Birds are associated with divinity." Without further quantifiers, this means "''All'' birds are associated with divinity." None of the examples you have included so far are from settings where every single species in the ''aves'' class is considered divine in some way, and, in fact, your own remark of "at least certain species" contradicts the laconic you are content with. What I am saying is that good trope definitions and [[TropesAreFlexible trope flexibility]] don't work that way: you don't start with an extremely broad blanket statement like "all birds are associated with the divine" and then add examples that scale it down, because ''none'' of those examples then ''conforms with the given definition'', immediately invalidating them. Instead, you start with a concise and clear definition like "birds ''that'' are associated with the divine" and then, if you do eventually find an example where ''all'' birds actually are associated with divinity, it still fits the narrower definition but ''without invalidating all the other examples''.