Discussion YMMV / OneForAllAndEightForTheNinth

How is he more aggressive and more violent than canon? I mean, you might be used to the Bakugo from late in the manga that is genuinely a little more chill and respects others a little more.

But this is Bakugo from the very beginning, who constantly used his quirk to bully Izuku and burn his belongings, assaulted him after passing the UA entrance exam and demanded to know how he "cheated"; assaulted Izuku during the Quirk Apprehnsion Test and had to be restrained by Aizawa; used a lethal attack against Izuku during a combat exercise, going against All Might's explicit orders under the excuse of "he'll be fine if he dodges".

All of what I mentioned is canon, and he more or less does the same thing in this fanfic as well. Now, can you tell me what this Bakugo did or say that canon Bakugo from the same period would never do?

Look I'm sorry, but this Bakugo is more so than his actual canon counterpart. All of his reactions are more aggressive, more nasty, more spiteful, etc etc etc.

Like seriously, I have seen MHA and this Bakugo is a lot nastier than he should be if he is being depicted properly, plus additional contexts that make up bashing and mischaracterizations. Like seriously, reacting in aggression to a show of sign language, 'crying like a baby' when he's expelled, Aldera adjusting his grades to make him look better...this fic is a Bakugo bash fic. I have seen hundreds of bashfics across many fandoms, and I know them when I see one.

(Also a Meta Liberation Army Bashfic, seeing as it seems to think that the MLA hates the Quirkless just because one high ranking soldier thinks the world should work on social darwinsim, but that is besides the point)

So far, all you do is make ambiguous claims like "he's more aggresive, he's more violent", while not answering my question of what did this Bakugo do that canon Bakugo wouldn't do in the same time period. And what do you mean by "reacting in aggression to sign language"?

As for the crying, I don't think it's meant as an attack on his character. Bakugo is still a teen, who had been expelled from his dream high school, arrested, learned that his idol hates his guts, and had his lifelong dream crushed. I think something like that would drive any teen to tears, especially one with such poor grasp on his emotions as Bakugo. Bakugo has been shown crying a couple times in canon.

The part of Aldera doctoring his records is something I can agree with, though that would fall under Aldera bashing rather than Bakugo bashing (and in fact, Bakugo actually disapproved of such actions when he learned of them). So if you want to put Aldera under Ron the Death Eater (and the MLA since you mentioned them), I don't think there is any problem.

The....actual heck am I supposed to say. You read the scenes with Bakugo here and I'm just seeing bashing. It's like seeing words that flow badly, it's easier to see and understand than explain.

Bakugo started the series off as a nasty piece of work, that much is true. However not only is this fic ommiting the humanization he also received (like his post battle trial scenes with Izuku), but it also ignores what would be common sense. Like the story specifically had it so he didn't get the warning about using the full blast attack during the battle trial, despite the set up for it, so he could go at it later with the Uraraka spar and get expelled. Like that was very clearly a trap to set up a scenario to get him expelled where, if this fic really was 'people reacting responsibly to Bakugo's problems', the guy would have been talked to after the battle trial or, as All Might himself lampshaded, not given the gauntlets.

You yourself said it: Bakugo was a nasty piece of work. Yes, the way some dialogue and narration is worded makes no effort to hide that the author doesn't like Bakugo, plus the way other characters react to him. But this is justified in that most of said narrations are from the POV of people who don't like Bakugo. But that doesn't mean that Bakugo is being bashed perse.

From what the author said, Nezu allowed Bakugo to have his gauntlets as a test of character. Yes, it can be argued that it was a set up, but one that Bakugo walked into willingly. Like in canon, All Might did warn Bakugo against using the full blast attack precisely because it would be fatal, and Bakugo replied the same way he did in canon. Maybe Nezu set Bakugo up, but Bakugo chose to ignore All Might of his own free will. And let me repeat, this happened in canon, so the fact that Bakugo would act that way is not a baseless assumption.

Also, Bakugo was warned beforehand that he was on thin ice, on the very first day. Should the teachers have done more to address his problems besides "one strike and you're out"? Some people like you might think that the answer is yes, while others will point out that UA shouldn't waste time and effort on somebody so wholly unheroic, especially with its reputation as an extremely elitist school that everybody wants to get in and have no trouble expelling students that fail to make the cut (the fact that somebody as expulsion-happy as Aizawa would let Bakugo go with a light warning after attempting to assault Izuku with his Quirk in front of everybody is simply laughable).

Since we are the topic of 'is Bakugo bashed', bashing is another term for Ron the Death Eater.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RonTheDeathEater

Bakugo is among the characters in MHA who are noted for being bashed, and the writer's own tags do imply that bashing is going on for at least one character (Night Eye), and very often bashing one character leads to bashing of more. There is never just one of them unless the author tries to correct course.

The guy is literally a victim of 'The fandom's tendency to shoehorn a good canon character into being a villain' in his status as now being a bad guy worse than Overhaul rank-wise, and the narrative is altered to make him worse. Frame it as 'characters reacting to him differently' or 'taking Bakugo seriously', that is what is happening. Bakugo, no matter how he is seen by fans, is a hero in canon My Hero Academia. He is treated as such, he develops into such, and the fanfic alters how people react to him specifically to demonize him.

That is Ron the Death Eater/Bashing/Worse than canon, etc etc etc.

Except at no point did I say that Bakugo is being bashed.

Also, the paragraph after the link is a complete non-argument based on fallacies. You might want to bring up the topic of Sir Nighteye if the author admits to bash him, but that doesn't prove that Bakugo is being bashed.

The author had admitted that he believed Overhaul, Dabi, etc were S-rank, and that he would have made Bakugo a lower rank, before he decided to use it as a plot point for the Bakugo spinoff.

Except while Bakugo is labeled as a villain, he isn't considered as a villain by the narrative. No one treats him as if he was a member of the Lo V, or thinks that he's irredeemable, or anything like that. He still wants to be a hero and the spinoff shows that he has the chance to be one. He just needs to massively better himself.

The reason behind Bakugo being treated differently here is simply because, unlike canon, Izuku told both All Might and his classmates how Bakugo bullied him since pretty much forever, which in turn had a domino effect of Nezu investigating him further, the classmates being less friendly to him, etc.

But once again, you're missing a fundamental part of Ron The death Eater: a character being given flaws he didn't have in canon, or have his flaws exaggerated, and neither of this is the case here.

Bakugo was expelled because he violated his probation by disobeying a direct order from All Might and using an explicitly lethal attack against a classmate, which is based in canon. Bakugo was on probation because Nezu found a video of Bakugo assaulting Izuku after the entrance exam, which is canon. Nezu investigated Bakugo more thoroughly because Izuku told All Might that Bakugo bullied him all his life, which, once again, it's canon.

The author didn't give Bakugo flaws he didn't have in canon, nor had him do actions canon Bakugo would never do. Bakugo isn't being bashed or demonized. He's simply suffering the consequences of his actions. That's not Ron the Death Eater, but Adaptational Karma.

...Given that Bakugo got plenty of karma for his bad attitudes in canon, ranging from being teased for having a terrible personality to it costing him top count of internships, his initial license earning, and he does take a massive hit for Izuku in the big war he has canonically paid for it. He's apologized, he's done good....he's not Lila Rossi.

His karma is balanced, and fanfics like this do not fix it.