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DrakeClawfang
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02:41:18 PM Mar 23rd 2013
I don't see how "natter magnet" means a perfectly valid trope should be removed. If there's a more suitable trope, sure, but a trope should not be removed just because it attracts natter if the original entry is valid.
Virodhi
03:21:43 PM Mar 23rd 2013
Don't know about natter, but I question the overall validity of the trope in regards to the story. Broken Aesop assumes there is an aesop, aye? Whatever else one can say of the story, I never got the impression it was trying to make some philosophical point or teach a lesson.
Theharbo
03:34:34 PM Mar 23rd 2013
The way I see it, the description of the trope had multiple shortcomings that didn't reflect the plot at all, this attracted Justifying Edit after Justifying Edit. While I do agree there was no reason to remove it entirely, it didn't do the page any good in the condition it was written. The story is complex, and many subtleties abound - Broken Aesop is close to YMMV by nature, and as such should be approached with caution and neutrality. Which the previous description wasn't.

That, and well. What Virodhi said - Heart of the Swarm isn't a story we're supposed to learn something from. It's a sci-fi story of a woman who's lost everything she ever cared for and subsequently goes on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge. There's little to no moral in that.
DrakeClawfang
04:35:57 PM Mar 23rd 2013
Fair enough on the aesop idea. Is there a more suitable trope that could be used then?
Theharbo
01:47:40 AM Mar 24th 2013
edited by Theharbo
All depends on what exactly you want to say with it - if it's the whole concept of trying do redeem oneself while doing quite horrible things at the same time to further oneself.. well, I'd be surprised if we didn't have a trope for it, but I'd be damned if I can remember it. Try YKTTW'ing it.
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