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IukaSylvie Since: Oct, 2017
Oct 28th 2022 at 1:04:43 AM •••

The He-Man Woman Hater trope wildly contradicts The Privileged Sex by Martin van Creveld:

Women also left home, the literature shows, to visit their favorite soothsayer,[18] participate in some public ceremonies,[19] admire works of art on the Acropolis,[20] visit men in prison,[21] argue their case before arbitrators,[22] and attend courtrooms to rouse the sympathy of juries for their male relatives.[23] Women also listened to public speeches; one, Elphinike, reproached Pericles after the latter gave a speech in honor of the Athenians killed in the war against Samos.[24] Plato says that refined women preferred tragedy to comedy; from this, as from two other passages, it appears that women frequented the theater as well.[25] Not only did women participate in their relatives’ funerals, but without them those funerals could not be carried out at all. Women were active in religion.[26] They could become priestesses; indeed, some priesthoods were reserved exclusively for women. Some religious rites in which women participated were carried out daily, while others focused on festivals held on fixed dates. Some of the festivals were mixed, with others reserved for women. None could have taken place if women had been confined at home. And that is not to mention the feast of Dionysus, during which women not only left their homes but the city as well, making for the mountains instead.

So which is true?

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thatsnumberwang Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 28th 2022 at 2:30:03 AM •••

Considering that the goddesses of Greece were often held in greater esteem and competency to their male counterparts, I have always felt that the Greeks hate women to be very simplistic and not at all in-keeping with the spirit of He-Man Woman Hater. I'm going to be very cautious with my words here and just say that, if we look at certain cultures that exist today that treat women badly, they wouldn't even dream of having a woman above a man in their literature or religion, let alone a holy figure. That's the difference between true misogyny and a place that merely treats women not very well.

Personally, I vote that this trope is merged into something like Values Dissonance.

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