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vexer Since: Jul, 2013
Apr 10th 2016 at 8:03:17 PM •••

Can this page be altered to look less biased? For example the bit about comics of that era being "trash not worth collecting" looks really out of place and just makes it look the person who wrote the trope entry wants to shoehorn in his hatred for Rob Liefeld for no good reason.

Just cause you don't think comics of that era weren't worth collecting does not mean other people don't, so please don't use this page as a platform for insulting things you don't like.

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biznizz Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 27th 2010 at 2:52:37 AM •••

Oh, for fuck's sake! Another locked page!? Seriously. Damn. Edit War takes another page.

Locked pages makes me feel uncomfortable as a troper, I hope it'll be unlocked soon.

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Medinoc (Before Recorded History)
Sep 8th 2015 at 1:47:34 AM •••

Well it's been five goddamn years... :-(

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
fop1234 Since: Apr, 2012
Aug 18th 2013 at 2:47:46 PM •••

Someone please change "Time-Warner" to the legal name "Time Warner"...

JohnKFisher Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 26th 2010 at 12:46:13 PM •••

I think "In particular, the 1992 Death of Superman storyline sparked a massive rise in comic book speculators due to its high level of mainstream publicity, and alienated many when the con was revealed." should be rephrased to clarify it was only the collectors who were inexperienced with comics enough to be surprised Superman came back. Every reader knew, cause, duh, and DC probably figured anyone who would care would know he'd be back before long.

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gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Nov 8th 2012 at 7:37:38 AM •••

As evidenced by the continued publication of all four titles he had at the time. Yes. This wasn't a marketing ploy, at least not to start with. They killed Superman because their original plan, a story arc about Lois and Clark preparing for their wedding, getting married, settling in, etc, was shelved because execs wanted the comic book wedding to coincide with the marriage on the TV show Lois And Clark. They killed Superman because they were suddenly without a story arc without any warning.

gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Oct 25th 2011 at 12:21:06 PM •••

Someone needs to correct one key point on this page. It wasn't the publishers who failed economics forever, it was the consumers. The consumers were buying these comics on the basis of their "collectability" because they'd been hearing stories about how much Action Comics #1 sold for. In fact, speculation did lead to short term profits for other speculators. Wizards ran current trading prices on back issues of comics and some collectors would buy and wait. It was the consumers driving this activity. The publishers just took advantage of it.

As John K Fisher points out above me, Death of Superman is just one example. The original first print still in its bag was selling for over a hundred at one point within a year or two of it's publication leading inexperienced collectors to buy reprints, not getting how this works. I did this as a matter of fact (I was 13, it was the only time I did this.)

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Medinoc (Before Recorded History)
May 26th 2012 at 1:51:43 AM •••

By the way, I've seen it referred to as "the speculation era" (not just in the comic itself, in the reader comments explaining it).

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
arromdee Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 29th 2010 at 11:01:45 AM •••

arromdee: All right:

  • Deleting the claim that the Crash is why comics aren't sold on the newsstand. It's true that the direct market helped cause the crash, and also led to comics not being sold on newsstands, but because A causes B and A causes C doesn't mean that B causes C.
  • Reworded the Marvel bankruptcy mention to make it clear that it wasn't caused by the crash, although it could be considered a cause of the crash.

This is still awkward in places and needs rewording.

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