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01:45:42 PM May 5th 2015
edited by RMoribayashi
There's was an entry in the music section that was only an example of (supposed) plagiarism. Since it did not fit the "remake/parody eclipses original" definition I removed it. For the record it claimed that the song Epilogue from the 1990 anime "Record of the Lodoss War" was copied from the 1989 Jerry Goldsmith theme to the movie "Leviathan".

This is my first deletion. If I screwed up please let me know here.
02:05:49 AM Jun 14th 2014
I cracked up while reading Doc Smith's The Skylark of Space, when I recognized it as the parent of Harry Harrison's spoof Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers. But I won't list it because the parody may well be more obscure than the original.
07:41:31 AM Jun 12th 2014
Y'know, IMHO about 1/3 of the examples on this topic are just wrong. I am sorely tempted to go through and do a large-scale deletion. Somebody tell me I shouldn't... We should probably use Googlefight or something to check that the supposedly "forgotten" original is less well-known than the supposedly "popular" parody.
07:18:14 PM May 15th 2014
I cut the professional wrestling section, since the sole example seemed more like Older Than They Think. This trope is about parodies more famous than the original, and there was no evidence those examples were meant to be references or parodies.
05:36:33 PM Aug 17th 2013
The previous statement I made was supposed to be a new topic
11:28:45 AM Sep 25th 2012
I realise obscurity is subjective, but I'm really not sure about this:

  • Monty Python's Flying Circus: A lot of sketches are parodies of British TV shows that were popular during the late 1960s and early 1970s. For example, "How To Do It?" is a spoof of the BBC children's program Blue Peter. "The Golden Age of Ballooning" spoofed costume drama's on the BBC.

Blue Peter and costume dramas are both still going.
02:06:34 AM Aug 21st 2012
"a lot of Al's original songs are 'style parodies'"... Could someone knowledgeable check this list carefully? I found and removed one glaring error in there ("Bob" is a very very direct parody of "Subterranean Homesick Blues", not a "style parody"), and I am quite suspicious of some of the other entries.
12:04:53 AM Jun 12th 2014
Quit putting back "Bob". It is a direct parody of Subterranean Homesick Blues, including a shot-for-shot replication of the video, for pity's sake.
09:52:24 PM Mar 31st 2012
As someone who lives there (well, depending on what is meant by "upstate", I suppose), I truly am curious as to what is "a stereotypical upstate New York Accent"?
01:39:26 PM Nov 2nd 2011
  • Not a lot of people these days realise that the iconic "closing doors/phone box at end of corridor" is a quite deliberate parody on similar sequences in The Man From UNCLE

Is there a version of the Man from UNCLE opening credits that includes a phone box? The ones I've seen don't.
02:02:34 AM Aug 21st 2012
Probably meant "Get Smart", not "Man from U.N.C.L.E.", no?
11:44:33 AM Oct 27th 2011
Does anybody still remember the series parodies by Geoffrey Willans, hevily illustrated by Ronal Searle, concerning a not terribly able pupil called Nigel Molesworth at a not terribly well=thought-of British boarding school called St. Custards? Searle is nowadays remembered as the guy who invented the concept of St. Trinians (though he'd probably be turning in his grave if he could see the current franchise), but it's worth noting that the word "Hogwarts" comes from the Molesworth books, where it is the name of the headmaster of a rival school. Also, "The Hogwarts" is, according to Molesworth, an obscure ply by Aristophanes. Naughty Ms. Rowling!
03:12:28 PM Sep 25th 2011
Hmmm... I would have expected a lot more examples in the Video Games section here...
04:35:33 PM Apr 21st 2011
  • As with Daffy Duck and "despicable" (in the Western Animation section below), the character of "Grimace" from the McDonald's commercials aimed at children has resulted in the widespread mispronunciation of the word "grimace", which is supposed to have the stress on the second syllable ("gri-MACE"), not the first ("GRIM-uhs").

This "mispronunciation" is in fact an alternate pronunciation, according to a dictionary predating McDonaldland somewhat, so I'm pretty certain that whoever wrote that example was giving the character undeserved credit. But aside from that, I don't think pronunciations of words even qualify as examples of this trope.
05:42:20 AM Feb 6th 2011
Why is this listed as a "subjective trope"? It seems to me that it's very clearly and objectively defined: a parody that's still well-known when the original has faded into obscurity.
12:06:29 PM Jun 13th 2011
Because well-known and obscurity are both subjective. One of the examples is : Watch the opening to "Car 54 Where Are You" and try not to think of the Atari 5200 commercial for "Mario Bros.". Since I wasn't old enough for either, the one I'm most familiar with is the "Car 54 Where Are You" opening, because of Nick-at-Nite.
05:34:17 PM Aug 17th 2013
The statement one troper made that the bond franchise was a parody of 1950's spy thrillers is incorrect. While some of the films might be considered parodies, the original books by Ian Fleming were supposed to be a realistic account of the life of a secret service agent. Fleming was a spy himself,after all.
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