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02:17:41 PM Jul 27th 2012
Removed one example. Angel Bunny is not Cthulhu. Enough said.
06:19:24 PM Mar 27th 2014
Should the title be changed or the pages that qualify be altered? Most of these do not remotely qualify as Eldritch Abominations, or even come close.
03:47:48 PM Mar 29th 2014
There should be a five hat requirement for you know that thing where, so those kinds of things can get sorted out before launch. An extended waiting period at least.
11:50:26 PM Oct 31st 2011
edited by VVK
Just for the record, while I love the Fluttershy image, I'm not sure there was a sufficiently strong case for changing the original to it, if we think an earlier choice has some kind of priority for being there first. It was really good too.
01:24:51 PM Nov 2nd 2011
edited by deeman45
Hey there—I swapped the page image.

I changed it because the original Lost pic didn't really have a staredown going on that was immediately apparent to those unfamiliar with Lost. The nature of the Smoke Monster is obviously Eldritch and Cthulhu-esque, but a lot of that is lost to those unfamiliar to the show. To someone who's not a fan of Lost, it's just a guy looking at a black cloud.

The new pic gets the point across even if the viewer isn't a watcher of FiM. The dragon has an actual eye for Fluttershy to lock gazes with, and showing her body next to the eye gives a sense of scale immediately impressed upon the viewer. Even some of the more nuanced aspects of the trope are illustrated; Fluttershy's angry eyebrows combined with the dragon's wide-eyed shock indicate that she's intimidating him, not vice versa.
12:16:11 PM Nov 6th 2011
I feel inclined to disagree about the Lost image, but I'm not going to argue for change back unless whoever put that there shows up to do so. I'll just say that, at least with the caption, it worked for me without my knowing Lost. Well, aside from the part that the monster has to actually be intimidated (which wasn't evident elsewhere on the page either, I just figured from the YKTTW discussion that was probably intended and added it), it doesn't show that, that's true
07:58:27 PM Jun 20th 2012
edited by DudeBob
I dunno...the new pic still doesn't seem quite right to me. It's not immediately obvious from the context (especially given the ultra-cartoony art style) that the dragon is supposed to be a bad guy or even a threat. It's facial expression is more of what you'd expect from a Gentle Giant than a Big Bad.

If I may make a suggestion, how about using the Captain America vs Thanos staredown (unless we've already used it for a different page)? It'd be perfect: (#5 on the list)

Smoldering ruins all around establishing the threat, and it's pretty damn obvious that dude is a bad guy even if you know nothing about the comics.
12:43:14 PM Feb 18th 2013
edited by ramifications
On the other hand, Fluttershy successfully did it; while Captain America clearly attempted it, it wasn't a true example of the trope as Adam Warlock's plan to steal the gauntlet failed and Thanos promptly made himself even more powerful as opposed to being defeated.
12:46:55 PM Feb 18th 2013
On the other hand, I object to it based on the fact that I'm sick of seeing those ponies every-goddamn-where.
12:52:41 PM Feb 18th 2013
edited by ramifications
On the third hand, if you have a suggestion that is better than the Fluttershy image, in that it better represents the meaning of the trope, why don't you tell us what it is?
02:34:50 PM Oct 18th 2011
This needs a rewrite. It needs to clearly state what it means, before or after the colourful example if we're keeping that.
03:06:25 PM Oct 28th 2011
There, I hope that's correct.
09:37:20 PM Jun 9th 2011
The article says that this is "Often the cause of a Face–Heel Turn". Really? Then why is this not a cause of a Face–Heel Turn in any of the four examples listed on the page?
09:15:57 AM Jan 13th 2011
What's this trope about? Is it about a hero defeating an Eldritch Abomination by staring it down, or recruiting it as an ally by the same technique, or becoming coolly Brainwashed and Crazy by exposure to its glare? The description is confusing.
06:15:38 AM Apr 19th 2011
edited by DelphinusMach1
Staring it down. Possible style problem there.
02:26:31 PM Oct 18th 2011
edited by VVK
Edit: Oh, never mind, I saw the YKTTW. I didn't even know what this meant.
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