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Czigot Since: Aug, 2015
Mar 26th 2024 at 6:23:05 PM •••

So this trope is for black women who are cheerful and funny, and also black women who are deadpan snarkers. And sometimes black women who can stand up for themselves, humor or no. Seems like the definition is too broad, if it can apply to both Donna Meagle and Amanda Waller.

And so much ZCE. I hid the worst of it. Bit ironic that a trope about a lazy stereotype produces so many lazy examples. The definition needs to be more specific and concise.

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kyeo Since: Jun, 2010
35.13.156.32 Since: Dec, 1969
InTheMirror Since: Apr, 2013
Sep 6th 2013 at 6:37:41 PM •••

I moved this example from the article here.

  • Pretty much any sitcom with a predominantly African-American cast(I.E.-Moesha, All Of Us, Eve, My Wife And Kids, The Bernie Mac Show, The Hughleys, For Your Love, One On One, Half And Half, etc) has at least one example of this trope.

This should be elaborated on and concrete examples (show and the character) should be listed.

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Cider Since: May, 2009
Oct 8th 2013 at 9:03:05 AM •••

This has the side effect of eliminating the black shows from a trope page about black people and making one who wants them back have to watch a lot of old sitcoms...hopefully some are in syndication or something.

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Oct 8th 2013 at 9:23:38 AM •••

More that it has the side-effect of actually giving those shows real examples rather than lumping them into a vague and useless generalized example.

tombdragon Since: Jan, 2014
CluLegacy Since: May, 2013
Aug 9th 2013 at 7:05:24 AM •••

what about changing the photo? this one misleads the readers to think sassy = fatty.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Aug 9th 2013 at 7:15:00 AM •••

A: Image Pickin.

B: It's fine. The woman's pose is clearly sassy. Yes, she's a bit fat, but if someone genuinely believes that the word "sassy" means fat, there's not much we can do for them. It would be equally silly to say this is a problem because it misleads readers to think sassy = brown-shirted.

But if you have any suggestions, feel free to open an IP thread.

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NimmerStill Since: Mar, 2012
Oct 8th 2013 at 12:36:09 PM •••

Also, it seems to me that a large (sorry) percentage of straight plays of the trope do involve overweight black women. It seems to be at least highlighted within the stereotype, if not essential.

99.186.116.230 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 17th 2011 at 6:18:10 AM •••

The suggestion that the "sassy black woman" trope began in the 1960s is completely erroneous. There are any number of movies and television shows from the 1930s - 1950s wherein a sassy black maid speaks to the master of the house in ways that wouldn't be tolerated from anyone else. Obviously it has its origins in the "black mammy" thing from the antebellum south.

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