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UnstoppableAnimosity
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05:02:12 PM Dec 1st 2013
I am looking for a trope to describe certain situation but can't seem to find it. Does anybody know if there is (and what's it's name) a trope about geniuine weakness that becomes useful thanks to another weakness?
Jerry12345
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10:01:14 AM Aug 27th 2011
Chuck shouldn't be the perfect example for this trope?
theprofessor53
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04:18:24 AM Jul 26th 2011
In this Film entry:

Mr. Miyagi in every single Karate Kid movie. Given, it's no longer surprising after the first movie, but it isn't until the end of the first film that he demonstrates he "still has it after all those years."

As I recall, in the first movie, Mr. Miyagi's main fight is when he rescues Daniel from the bullies, which occurs early in the movie, before teaching Daniel karate. So yes, it was a surprise, but it wasn't at the end. I added this to the main page and was told it was nattering and should be in discussion, so here it is. I'm not going to just change it; it's someone else's work. That person should change it.
TheGunheart
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01:40:31 AM May 11th 2011
Don't you think we need some elaboration on the Trope Namer? I'm having difficulty remembering any time Darkwing Duck actually pulled off this trope.
Nathaniel
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05:38:45 AM Jan 6th 2011
I'm having some serious trouble understanding how this is any different from Crouching Moron Hidden Badass. Any hints?
Dorcas_Aurelia
12:40:49 PM Nov 19th 2011
That's about the character, this is about the incident, I guess.
illegalcheese
02:52:42 PM Mar 12th 2012
As I understand it, this trope is about the transition itself, from Moron to Badass. And it's slightly broader in that there doesn't necessarily have to be a moron or incompetent involved, merely an individual who was not acting in a positive manner, who then makes a marked decision to do so.
74.168.26.130
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07:10:18 PM Jun 3rd 2010
Okay, so apparently there's a disagreement here on the page image. Here's the current image that's being argued over:

Now, the issue here is, quite bluntly, this image by itself just does not show the trope in action. It would be good for, say, Playing with Fire, Breath Weapon, or some other page that dealt with fire, breathing fire, old men, or old men breathing fire. The problem is that it does not show this trope in action by itself. By itself, without context, all it shows is an old man breathing fire. It doesn't show the core point behind this trope: of an individual who was previously considered weak or ineffectual instead showing competence or unexpected power. Out of context, it doesn't make any sense and doesn't show this trope in action.

Part of this issue, I think, is the nature of the trope - its about a progression of action, of a character going from one state to another. To that end, I'd suggest that if the image was modified (say, to something similar to the current one for Took a Level in Badass) to actually show the trope in action, there wouldn't be an issue at all.
beeftony
12:23:28 AM Jun 4th 2010
We could always combine it with this image.

74.168.26.130
03:28:28 PM Jun 4th 2010
I've got not problem with that. Just as long as it shows the progression from "harmless" to "dangerous" effectively. Combine the two, with a before-after thingy like in Took a Level in Badass, and we're good.
FastEddie
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07:03:06 PM Jun 3rd 2010
I agree that the Avatar image does nothing to help us understand the trope quickly.
74.168.26.130
07:12:03 PM Jun 3rd 2010
Looks like we both posted at the same time. Oops!
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