I guess it is unlikely that Jaune would be able to resist Raven, but her refusal to use Charisma and simply order Jaune and Lavender to not run away may be a case of sadism rather than thoughtlessness as she does seem to take pleasure in the torture of others. Raven may even let them escape at one point, just for them to realize that they have no way off the Mirage Isles. Even if they do find a way off, she can (presumably) just open a portal to their exact location and retrieve them with very little effort. Personally, I would say that this example should instead be categorized under Why Don't You Just Shoot Him? in Raven's personal entry on the Character page, seeing as that is the villainous example of Forgot About His Powers.
I'm seeing a lot of speculative ifs and maybes, but no concrete reasoning from the story itself. And who knows if Raven's portal ability will be explained or if it'll be relied on people knowing canon. The ability doesn't make any sense in this story with Raven as a Knight anyway.
Though Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?, may indeed be more appropriate it's also more deliberate, and with how even details from the previous chapter are being forgotten, it doesn't rule this trope out either.
It is true that the opening of a portal directly to Jaune is mere speculation based on RWBY canon, but speculation is pretty much all we have to go on, seeing as Raven was just introduced this chapter. Adding this example as Forgot About His Powers at this point just feels a little premature considering we just met Raven. The speculation of her actions being intentional and attributed to sadism was just an attempt to attribute her actions to in-character reasoning rather than contrived stupidity.
The entry could benefit with a little future hindsight. I'm assuming a lot of what's happening in regards to Raven's actions will be revealed in the coming chapters. If this issue isn't addressed by the end of the Book, then feel free to add that entry.
In regards to Jaune's new passive, and new Corcea Mors, it's clear this is indeed a case of a plot contrivance hand waved with a very thin excuse over it that doesn't stand up to any real thought behind it, and thus does indeed belong in this entry.
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While the excuse is sort of out there, the fact that there is an excuse means that the trope doesn't really apply. To quote the trope: "No explanation as to why said weapon's killing power seems to come and go. It simply does." It would apply if the strength of the sword suddenly increased without any reason at all, but here there is a reason, albeit not the best one.
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The original post was fine, as analysis is dependent on the story that is presented, not on how the author personally feels about it (and is probably for the best as Coeur is increasingly short-tempered with ANY criticism lately).
The first battle had the two armies mindlessly slam into each other. That's an undisputed fact, and the post is actually a concession to his argument on Mistral's general strategy, as well as moving the fight away from the town.
Magnis was just contrived in a lot of ways.
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I think we're having another disagreement about how much Jaune's Unreliable Narrator perspective counts. I'm working under the assumption that what we see in the fic is what Jaune sees and understands in-story.
Here he sees two armies just wailing on each other with melee in the front and archers and mages sorta in the back because that's what he's equipped to understand.
A more knowledgeable person might give consideration to how dedicated warrior type classes like Fighters and Warriors form most of the core of the armies while rogue classes like Thieves are on mostly on the flanks where they can attempt to use their superior agi and dex to encircle the other army and come at them from the side (or something along those lines anyway). The thing is Jaune doesn't know diddly about soldier tactics and large scale maneuvers, so those details don't get mentioned. (although in reality Coeur probably just didn't want spend the time and word count describing the battle in more detail as it was mostly incidental to the plot)
Under that point of view you can't really say definitively if the battle was well thought out or not because Jaune isn't equipped to judge such things and nobody else commented on it. So I guess I'm just generally disinclined to bring it up on the main page.
For what it's worth, I do agree about Magnis being poorly thought out and justified in the story.
This is another case where the reasonings behind the narration is not a condition for the trope. This may be a First-person POV fic, but if Unreliable Narrator is going to be plead for near everything, one might as well dismiss this whole story as a fevered hallucination from Jaune eating bad mushrooms.
A trope either applies, or the author has to do better in narrating events. Till then, I'll base the entry on the events as they are written.
Should also be noted that the author never disputed the events played out just as they were written, and conceded to "taking liberties" as delving into the battle was less important than the character's emotional reactions.
I think you're overstating things a little, but that is certainly a valid view. I suppose I just find the narration style one of the interesting things about the story so I like to give its implications more weight.
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Spoiler Tags.
Given the projected length of the fic, I think we need to decide at what point we stop considering things Spoiler worthy. Just for example, Salem was introduced midway through book 2, but we're still consistently spoilering things that apply to her, despite her being well established in the original RWBY canon and in the universe of Forged Destiny.
Personally I'm of the opinion that things in the book actively being written and the previous book (books 4 and 5 at the moment) should be spoilered, but after that we have to shrug and accept that Late Arrival Spoilers are a thing that happen.
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Forgot About His Powers
Much of the story is dedicated to the notion of Charisma of sufficiently high stat being essentially brainwashing, and with Raven revealed as a Knight and thus Charisma being one of her best stats, and at her ridiculous Level, she should effectively be able to command anyone to do anything without the need for any extra measures. Frankly, most of the entire story is rendered as nonsensical as the one mind manipulating mutant's entire role from Wolverine Origins, with this ability.
But in the shorter term of just the recent chapter, it makes the whole gladiatorial aspect as well as threatening Jaune with Lisa's death even more irrelevant, because she can literally tell people to kill and be killed, and they shouldn't be able to resist much like the whole 'forced suicide' aspect in Book 5's "climax." Jaune's ability to resist is entirely plot dependent like much of the story has become, but as we've seen him struggle with people of lower Levels with high Charisma, and he hasn't progressed that far, till we see the author's almost inevitable contradicting this mechanic, we can only assume Jaune would be as effected by Raven's high Level as anyone else based off what we've seen.
As such, it is indeed an example of this trope. Because much like Weiss example, this is only being utilized and forgotten when story drama demands it.
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