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ahasemore (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Feb 4th 2018 at 7:09:31 PM •••

Adaptational Intelligence tropes

Right now, there are two trope examples for Adaptational Intelligence for this page, but they're both inverted examples, meaning the opposite.

Wouldn't they fit under the 'Took a Level in Dumbass' trope better? Or are these tropes not quite the opposite of each other?

permeakra Since: Jul, 2010
Feb 27th 2017 at 5:05:28 AM •••

>> The author is not promoting libertarian views in the story.

Yes, he is. He openly admitted that what happened with Cirrus and Hilltop is, in his opinion, inevitable if government is allowed to have social politics.

> This is a cheap shot against him.

It is not a shot. Liberty of speech exists for a reason, everyone is free to have a personal political opinion and preach it. It is not a sin to be shunned.

Aargvark Since: Oct, 2014
Apr 17th 2016 at 2:38:10 PM •••

"YOU DON'T NEARLY DROWN A GRADE SCHOOL AGED CHILD ON PURPOSE TO GET HER TO BEHAVE." Ted did. It's a fairly natural impulse when someone accuses you of something to demonstrate the difference between what you're doing (giving DT a bath) and what they're accusing you of (drowning her). Whether he's just screwed up enough to indulge that impulse of his own accord or the Amulet is playing off his wrath to get him to do it isn't relevant; the point of my edit to that chunk was his motives, not whether he was justified. He's no Bully Hunter; her status as a bully was only really relevant as fuel to Break Her By Talking.

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ahasemore (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 17th 2016 at 3:04:59 PM •••

Well, yeah. He is the villain isn't he? I also think how extreme he took his 'Bully Hunter' and 'behavioural modification' was a result of that fact that at the time Diamond's father had just scammed him out of a lot of money and supplies when he was (at the time) just trying to make an honest deal. He tries not to kill, but he doesn't really care for what lines he crosses other than that.

Aargvark Since: Oct, 2014
Apr 20th 2016 at 9:17:09 AM •••

That was my point. When I pointed out he didn't give a damn about bully hunting in the article, it was removed with the allcaps bit I quoted above as reasoning. In retrospect, making a counterargument in the Discussion section might be against etiquette. I'll have to brush up on that now that I'm making more involved edits than adding a trope or two and fixing grammar.

ahasemore (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 20th 2016 at 2:48:29 PM •••

I think that the tropes that aren't YMMV try to avoid any kind of opinions and just stick to facts. I think the bully hunter trope was there in the first place because regardless of everything else, it's what he was doing.

Aargvark Since: Oct, 2014
Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:08:36 PM •••

Perhaps, but as per the Bully Hunter trope page, it's a little more involved than brutalizing a bully - it involves willfully seeking out bullies.

ahasemore (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 24th 2016 at 5:55:01 AM •••

Which is something he arguably does, as he showed by helping the remedials to get revenge for their Miscarriage of Justice. Diamond's kidnapping was just a coincidence because he was trying to get supplies that he needs to live, and got cheated out of it. He's still a Bully Hunter, it just wasn't his top priority at the time.

Dechstreme Since: Oct, 2014
Apr 25th 2016 at 9:13:53 AM •••

You still don't understand why I removed the part about him doing what he did to get Tiara to behave, do you?

The way you worded it, you sounded like you were justifying child abuse, which is what Ted was doing regardless of his motivations. That's a big mistake that can end you on the wrong side of a fist in real life.

ahasemore (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Apr 25th 2016 at 2:19:40 PM •••

Errr, no I don't. What exactly did you do? Also I apologize if it sounded like I was trying to justify his actions. I'm not. I'm just stating the facts and why he would do it. I'm not saying it's right.

Aargvark Since: Oct, 2014
May 7th 2016 at 4:51:34 AM •••

Frankly, Dechs, no, I don't understand why you interpreted it that way. I was doing the same thing ahasemore just was; stating facts and rationale.

I still don't think he's a bully hunter; to use the Cirrus-Hilltop example ahase brought up, he didn't seem enraged over the abuse they suffered so much as the sheer injustice of it all. He PARTICIPATED in bullying in highschool, though it is possible he'd change that stance in Equestria as the power trip relaxes his ridiculous ideas about fitting in.

naal2 Since: Nov, 2011
Dechstreme Since: Oct, 2014
Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:45:29 PM •••

He explained it in the comments of the story for one chapter, but the official explanation hasn't actually appeared in the narrative.

So that you don't have to hunt it down.... Ted was a geek cosplayer that decided to fall for the trap that was the High School Popularity Contest and decided to "cosplay as a cool kid" to fit in. He ended up doing so well he forgot he wasn't supposed to be a jerk and left behind all his friends and the things he actually liked while becoming his own antithesis.

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