Storm has this entry
- Adaptational Sexuality: Ororo is fully straight here, lacking her 616 counterpart's phenomenal abundance of lesbian subtext. Then again, she's not being written by Chris Claremont this time around.
It was re-added saying "Read up on Storm and Yukio. Or Storm and Jean Grey. Or Storm and Forge (specifically, why Jim Shooter mandated their relationship). Or the WTXM kiss. But mainly Storm and Yukio."
Nobody cares about "subtext", Getting Crap Past the Radar, Wild Mass Guessing or What Could Have Been. For this trope to count, we would need an actual and canon case of Storm being lesbian. I'm sure that Claremont did not gave it: his run ended in 1991, the relation with Forge has already been started, and Northstar was revealed to be gay (the first case ever) in 1992. And whatever happened in Wolverine and the X-Men does not count either: that comic is from 2011, a decade after Ultimate X-Men started. So, is there a canon example of Storm being lesbian in the timeframe between 1992 and 2001?
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- Fantastic Racism: They got the short end of the stick in comparison to the 616 Universe as in this Universe, almost all of the U.S.A has a genocidal hatred for mutants and parents with mutant children get rid of them or downright attempt to kill them without remorse.
This comparison does not seem to be correct. The prime earth X-Men has loads and loads of similar examples, even to this day. Even X-Men Red #1 (just a couple of months ago) had a guy on TV suggesting to go after mutant babies, and we even supposed to understand that Both Sides Have a Point.
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Not the person who added the trope in question, just chiming in to point out that the Ultimates universe is traditionally Darker and Edgier compared to the mainstream one, and that hardcore anti-mutant racism of the type the troper described is more of a long-running constant in that universe as compared to the main one that oscillates in terms of just how persecuted mutants are (though in recent days it has swung back to the more far extreme of the curve, as you pointed out).
Well, Ultimate X-Men also have their own positive times, such as when they saved the president and got treated as celebrities for a while. It was also mentioned many times that, besides the superhero and supervillain groups, mutants had a counterculture going on. And in Ultimate Spider-Man, when someone voices a "mutants are dangerous" concern, someone else always asks "What the Hell, Hero?".
In short, yes, there is Fantastic Racism going on, but I don't think it's so different from the mainstream comics to justify a comparison.
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That's fair. I'd still wait for any counter-argument the troper who added it might have, but this sounds reasonable to me.
And somewhat off-topic, but do you remember the numbers of the issues delving into mutant counterculture? I always thought that was a nifty part of Grant Morrison's X-Men run, and had no idea it was explored anywhere in the Ultimate X-Men run.
- Adaptational Villainy: The mainstream Magneto was a morally complex, ambiguous figure. Here, he's nothing more than a repugnant mutant supremacist and genocidal maniac.
Trope misuse. Mainstream Magneto may be complex or ambiguous, but he's ultimately a villain. As discussed here
, Adaptational Villainy is for a hero turned villain in the adaptation, not for villains who are made just more evil.
I think the folder order should be X-Men, New X-Men, Academy of Tomorrow, Brotherhood, Weapon X, Others. All the good guys first, and then all the villains, not in mixed order.
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