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LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:33:12 PM •••

Does Official Couple with Pocahontas apply to John Smith, John Rolfe, or neither?

I think neither.

Certainly not John Smith as she doesn't end up with him romantically at the end of the (1st) movie.

And John Rolfe she does end up with, but only in the sequel, and he's never seen in merchandise, right?

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LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
Sep 11th 2018 at 10:07:35 PM •••

O.k., as of now, the following entry is still on the page, under John Smith:

  • Official Couple: With Pocahontas. The first movie and most merchandise and other Disney media portray him as Pocahontas' "Prince", even though the sequel hooks her up with John Rolfe, her historical husband, whom she is never seen with in merchandising or in other media.

This doesn't seem to apply and I propose to remove it... Pocahontas doesn't end up in a relationship with John Smith and they part ways at the end (in fact, this is very remarkable for a Disney film, where protagonists who have romantic interest in each other always end up married, or at least in a relationship, Happily Ever After together).

The fact that Pocahontas is portrayed together with John Smith in Disney merchandise seems besides the point for this page. This is the page for the specific 1995 film, Disney merchandise seems more proper to be discussed on the Franchise.Disney page.

AdamElY Since: Jan, 2018
May 16th 2018 at 10:41:53 AM •••

I think Ratcliffe is a Not-So-Harmless Villain because even though he's one of Disney's more pathetic villains and is a Sissy Villain, he fatally shot John Smith.

Would you consider him a Knight of Cerebus in the sequel?

Adam El-Yousseph
AquaMusic Since: Feb, 2017
Nov 13th 2017 at 1:28:22 PM •••

I feel I should explain my last edit a little better. I removed this line:

"* Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Despite his overly serious nature, Kocoum truly cares for and loves his friends and family. And his love for Pocahontas was genuine."

Being serious isn't a quality that would make one a jerk, so I removed the example. However, since in this case it was about being "overly serious", changing the text to, "Despite being serious to the point where he comes across as unfriendly" would probably have been a better choice, as it makes both points of the example clear.

Telcontar MOD In uffish thought Since: Feb, 2012
In uffish thought
Aug 6th 2012 at 6:21:43 AM •••

Pulled, under Ratcliffe(sp?):

This trope is being merged into Complexity Addiction and there isn't enough context to tell if this is valid. If it is, please add it back under CA with an explanation of why it fits the trope.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
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