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JGC-97 Since: Jul, 2016
May 13th 2023 at 12:20:19 PM •••

Hi, it's me again. First, I'd like to thank you all for replying to my previous post. And while I'm sorry about doing this right after that was solved, a new problem has appeared, and this time, I'm out of ideas. So I have to ask you all: What do we do about the whole Eri=Aerial=Lfrith thing without spoiling stuff?

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ZeroSennin Since: Jul, 2009
May 13th 2023 at 1:10:30 PM •••

In terms of Eri still having her own section separate from Lfrith and Aerial? I may have an idea or two but I kind of need an idea of what you're thinking the main knot to untangle is.

JGC-97 Since: Jul, 2016
May 13th 2023 at 1:59:39 PM •••

I mean, now that we know that Aerial and Eri are one and the same, what do we do about their future tropes? Do we add those tropes to both pages? Do we think of a method to decide if a trope is Aerial´s or Eri´s? And if the best method is to fuse them into a single entry, how do we do that without spoiling the twist?

ZeroSennin Since: Jul, 2009
May 13th 2023 at 2:15:15 PM •••

My immediate thoughts:

- Things that are related to Aerial's existence and operation as a Gundam (e.g., things like how she uses Data Storms to override Permet links) are the tropes that still go to Aerial's section. Things that relate to Eri's manifestation within Aerial in terms of physical appearance and the like can be tracked in Eri's section.

- Alternatively, we can move the majority of Eri's post-prologue tropes to Aerial's section, leave a note in the summary that directs to Suletta, Miorine and Aerial's page as "for tropes that apply to her after becoming Gundam Lfrith, and later Gundam Aerial..." and add an unmarked spoilers warning to Eri's folder so that people understand they're going to basically be exposing themselves to information they shouldn't look at if they don't want to be spoiled. This would also go with adding in the explanation that Eri is Aerial to the summary of Eri's folder.

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JGC-97 Since: Jul, 2016
Apr 19th 2023 at 2:35:55 PM •••

I've noticed this page has gotten pretty big, and since we have at least 10 more episodes to go, it will surely grow bigger in the future. So I think it's possible it will reach a point where we will have to split it again. I was wondering how to deal with it, and came up with two options. So I decided to ask others which option is better. That way if we do need to do it in the future we will be in agreement about how.

Option 1: We change or definition of "Main Characters" to just the main duo and the main Gundam. The other 5 characters would be moved to the Asticassia sub-page.

Option 2: We keep the current definition of "Main Characters" and make a sub-sub-page only for Suletta and Miorine. Since there is a folder for tropes they share, they can't be separated. This would be just like what happened with "Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans", where Mikazuki and Mc Gillis got their own separate page.

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Kuruni (Long Runner)
Apr 19th 2023 at 5:30:11 PM •••

I think 1. (and move Ericht to this page, either as separate folder to avoid spoiler or merge with Aerial) is good enough.

TwistedWanderland Since: Jun, 2022
Apr 19th 2023 at 8:00:41 PM •••

Maybe option 2, but instead of just Suletta and Miorine, the sub-page could be for Miorine’s company, which would include Nika, Chuchu, and the other Earth House members, as well as Aerial. The other three could be either moved to the Asticassia sub-page or a sub-page for the Student Council could be made and they could be moved there instead.

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EX_Summoner Since: Jul, 2018
May 9th 2023 at 7:22:34 PM •••

Adding in to the discussion: With everything that's going on between them, both in their relationship and their roles in the story causing more tropes to fill in; I really do feel there now needs to be a separate page for Suletta and Miorine, whether just them, with Aerial, and/or GUND-Arm Inc (unless you count Miorine setting it up as a major spoiler) while the three guys just go back to the Asticassia page or even make a Dueling Commitee page for them, Secilia and Rouji.

ZeroSennin Since: Jul, 2009
May 9th 2023 at 8:12:50 PM •••

I think GUND-Arm Inc counts as a spoiler for setup purposes, yeah. That said, Suletta and Miorine getting their own page with maybe Aerial as well should be fine, and I think Guel, Elan, Shaddiq, Secilia, and Rouji should have their own Dueling Committee page.

EX_Summoner Since: Jul, 2018
May 9th 2023 at 9:18:38 PM •••

Very well, perhaps I will split Suletta, Miorine, and Aerial (don't know about Lfrith) for to their own page (or just turn the Main Characters page to just Main Duo and Aerial). In Aerial's case, it'd be akin to how MCU Spider-Man and Iron Man have their suits listed on their character page. Then have a Dueling Committee page, while Nika and Chuchu just go back to the Asticassia page.

EX_Summoner Since: Jul, 2018
Jan 10th 2023 at 7:33:37 PM •••

Is there a trope out there for when a Mole has no choice to blow their cover in order to save the group they are "spying" on but are genuinely close to? Referring to what Nika did in EP 12.

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Kuruni (Long Runner)
Jan 10th 2023 at 8:36:35 PM •••

Please try posting in Trope Finder.

Although it's worth noting that Nika save herself as much as the other, being in the same room with beam cannon pointed at them. So just "The Mole has no choice to blow their cover for whatever reason" might work better.

EX_Summoner Since: Jul, 2018
Dec 25th 2022 at 6:59:06 PM •••

Is it too early to put in related tropes signifying Suletta and Miorine as an Official Couple? EP 11 pretty much had then confessing in all but name.

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RAlexa21th Since: Oct, 2016
Dec 25th 2022 at 7:01:50 PM •••

Yes, it is. A Ship Tease moment doesn't make an Official Couple.

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EX_Summoner Since: Jul, 2018
Dec 2nd 2022 at 7:30:26 PM •••

I want to put tropes that emphasize the parallels/contrats between Suletta and Miorine. Should I put them under their individual entries or do make a folder called "Tropes Applied to Both of Them"?

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Knowledgeseeker Since: Sep, 2013
Dec 2nd 2022 at 9:18:23 PM •••

I think there are tropes that would apply to both of them. On the series page, there is that Odd Friendship trope that should probably be put there instead.

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