I was thinking about it. Theoretically, Thanos #2 is a variant with a different personality, so I'd say yes. Practically, it's a lot of work, and I'm not sure if it would make the page more or less readable.
Edited by AsherinkaPersonally, I think it's far more trouble than it's worth; about half the tropes reference both versions within the same paragraph. We might have to repeat a few tropes (Insane Troll Logic for one), and it could get so bloated we'd have to make a second page (we of course already have a few one-off movie villains with their own pages, but doing so here just feels... weird).
There seems to be this idea that some people have that Thanos is a Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist and a Hypocrite because he halfed Asgard's population more than once. The thing is, he never said anything about his goal being halving every species, he is talking about halving the population of the entire universe. Sure, he halved populations of planets before, but only because that was his only way of being able to act on his beliefs before he had the Gauntlet. I don't think his actions are contradictory at all and undermine his well intent (remember: Well intent doesn't equal good deeds).
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian Hide / Show RepliesWell intent would be to "save life in the universe." After all those commentaries and interviews it is clear that his main intent was "to prove that he knows how to save the universe," which is a staple of a Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist (check the trope page):
- They claim good intentions as a mask to cover their real and self-serving motives.
- They claim that their ends are good, and maybe they do believe it, but their ends are good only by their own sociopathic standards.
Adaptational Nice Guy (A Jerkass becomes nicer in an adaptation) and Adaptational Jerkass (A nice character becomes a Jerkass in an adaptation) can't simultaneously apply to a single character in the same movie - they are Opposite Tropes. I'd remove both tbh, and add the missing text to Adaptation Personality Change. I won't disagree with keeping one of them though. The question is - which one (if any). Opinions?
Hide / Show RepliesConsidering both entries and what he was like in the comics, I'd say he overall fits Adaptational Nice Guy more. Yeah, he still has his moments of cruelty and he's still a villain, but overall is a much better guy. That's my opinion at least.
Agreed. He's way nicer overall, what with being well intentioned and having genuine, if twisted, love.
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- Adaptational Nice Guy: In the comics, Thanos is a Death worshipper who killed half the universe as an offering to his "love" and who revels in his own sadistic impulses, to the point of deriving pleasure when subjected to the Penance Stare of Ghost Ridernote . In the MCU, Thanos is a true Well-Intentioned Extremist who believes killing trillions is a necessary evil to "save the universe from itself" and protect trillions more from resource wars, overpopulation, and permanent environmental damage to their own homes, and who regards his bloody work as a grim but ugly necessity to obtain his goals. In addition, he doesn't seek to become a living God and instead cedes control of the Infinity Gauntlet after accomplishing his mission. He also truly loved Gamora as a daughter and cried as he killed her. That said, he still did kill her for the Soul Stone, then murdered half of the population of the entire universe.
He performed the same actions, but given his motivation behind them, the fact he doesn't take as much enjoyment from them, and showing compassion to his victims. He's easily far nicer.
The 2014 Thanos shouldn't be separated into a different character folder, right? Aside from being a bit more of an egotistical dick, they're pretty much the same character; unlike the new Loki, we don't really spend that much time with him before he bites it; and even if we did separate them there'd be way too many tropes and examples to untangle.
Just looking for some clarification, especially with What If likely leading to us making folders for many of the wildly different Variants.
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