* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra's tribe's safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra's feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric's lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that's just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra\'s tribe\'s safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra\'s feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric\'s lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that\'s just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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I deleted this entry the first time it was posted because I felt it was too chock-full of inaccuracies and excessive character-bashing to be worth salvaging, but the troper put it back up. So in order to prevent an edit war, I\'m presenting my reasons why this trope in its current form does not deserve to be here.
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra's tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President's back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn't concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra\'s tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President\'s back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn\'t concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was \"right\" is a matter of debate.
* Asami kissed Mako during an emotionally vulnerable moment (which is when you could say she officially tried to bounce back to Mako), which she immediately apologized to him for. But to say that she \"disregards Korra\'s feelings\" and \"took advantage\" of Korra and Mako\'s fractured relationship as the sole reason for this is pure RonTheDeathEater.
* Asami played no part in locking Mako up. That was all Varrick. RonTheDeathEater again.
* Ginger does not becomes Bolin\'s girlfriend. The only thing he ever does is make advances toward her that she does not want. Bolin was being stupid, but to say she was only using him for publicity is false because she very clearly didn\'t want anything to do with him outside her professional life at all. While you certainly could make a case for this when Ginger did begin to show interest in him, the whole issue gets dropped at that point and Bolin\'s attention is drawn towards other, more important things for the rest of the season.
Furthermore, the DesignatedHero trope is being misused here. As the opening paragraph on its main page says:
\"A Designated Hero is a character in a story who, despite being presented as heroic, is actually a Jerkass at best and an arguable villain at worst. This is not the same as the deliberately morally ambiguous Anti-Hero. \'\'\'From the praise they receive from other characters and even the narrative, it is plain that the audience is expected to like and root for the Designated Hero; instead, they have problems that can even inspire pity or, on rare occasions, disgust\'\'\'.\"
We can see that this is clearly \'\'not\'\' the case here. The characters\' less-than-stellar actions throughout the season are frequently portrayed in a very negative light.
* Korra\'s general {{Jerkass}} behavior towards Tenzin and her turning to Unalaq as her mentor is not depicted as a good thing; it\'s shown to be a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero when the latter is revealed to be the ArcVillain of the season. In \"The Guide,\" she even acknowledges that the civil war was her fault, showing she knows her earlier actions were not good.
* Mako\'s disruptions of Korra\'s plans to get Republic City involved in the war thoroughly pisses Korra off and triggers an angry confrontation between the two. So even if you agree that this was hands-down a bad action on his part, he still gets called out on it.
* Mako\'s lying to an amnesiac Korra gets him a DeathGlare from Asami, some reproachful mocking from Bolin, and serves as the final straw for the Avatar, prompting her to break up with him for good. And even Mako himself knows that it was wrong.
* Bolin makes a turn from his previous self-centered behavior when he realizes that CelebrityIsOverrated and expresses feeling emptiness with Team Avatar divided.
* Mako and Asami hooking up a week after the breakup with Korra, which I would personally call a weak reason to label someone a DesignatedHero over (pun not intended), gets called out on by Bolin.
* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra's tribe's safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra's feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric's lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that's just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra\'s tribe\'s safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra\'s feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric\'s lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that\'s just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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I deleted this entry the first time it was posted because I felt it was too chock-full of inaccuracies and excessive character-bashing to be worth salvaging, but the troper put it back up. So in order to prevent an edit war, I'm presenting my reasons why this trope in its current form does not deserve to be here.
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I deleted this entry the first time it was posted because I felt it was too chock-full of inaccuracies and excessive character-bashing to be worth salvaging, but the troper put it back up. So in order to prevent an edit war, I\'m presenting my reasons why this trope in its current form does not deserve to be here.
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra's tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President's back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn't concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra\'s tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President\'s back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn\'t concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was \"right\" is a matter of debate.
* Asami kissed Mako during an emotionally vulnerable moment (which is when you could say she officially tried to bounce back to Mako), which she immediately apologized to him for. But to say that she \"took advantage\" of Korra and Mako\'s fractured relationship as the sole reason for this is pure RonTheDeathEater.
* Asami played no part in locking Mako up. That was all Varrick. RonTheDeathEater again.
* Ginger does not becomes Bolin\'s girlfriend. The only thing he ever does is make advances toward her that she does not want. Bolin was being stupid, but to say she was only using him for publicity is false because she very clearly didn\'t want anything to do with him outside her professional life at all. While you certainly could make a case for this when Ginger did begin to show interest in him, the whole issue gets dropped at that point and Bolin\'s attention is drawn towards other, more important things for the rest of the season.
Furthermore, the DesignatedHero trope is being misused here. As the opening paragraph on its main page says:
\"A Designated Hero is a character in a story who, despite being presented as heroic, is actually a Jerkass at best and an arguable villain at worst. This is not the same as the deliberately morally ambiguous Anti-Hero. \'\'\'From the praise they receive from other characters and even the narrative, it is plain that the audience is expected to like and root for the Designated Hero; instead, they have problems that can even inspire pity or, on rare occasions, disgust\'\'\'.\"
We can see that this is clearly \'\'not\'\' the case here. The characters\' less-than-stellar actions throughout the season are frequently portrayed in a very negative light.
* Korra\'s general {{Jerkass}} behavior towards Tenzin and her turning to Unalaq as her mentor is not depicted as a good thing; it\'s shown to be a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero when the latter is revealed to be the ArcVillain of the season. In \"The Guide,\" she even acknowledges that the civil war was her fault, showing she knows her earlier actions were not good.
* Mako\'s disruptions of Korra\'s plans to get Republic City involved in the war thoroughly pisses Korra off and triggers an angry confrontation between the two. So even if you agree that this was hands-down a bad action on his part, he still gets called out on it.
* Mako\'s lying to an amnesiac Korra gets him a DeathGlare from Asami, some reproachful mocking from Bolin, and serves as the final straw for the Avatar, prompting her to break up with him for good. And even Mako himself knows that it was wrong.
* Bolin makes a turn from his previous self-centered behavior when he realizes that CelebrityIsOverrated and expresses feeling emptiness with Team Avatar divided.
* Mako and Asami hooking up a week after the breakup with Korra, which I would personally call a weak reason to label someone a DesignatedHero over (pun not intended), gets called out on by Bolin.
* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra's tribe's safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra's feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric's lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that's just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler:Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra\'s tribe\'s safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra\'s feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric\'s lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that\'s just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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I deleted this entry the first time it was posted because I felt it was too chock-full of inaccuracies and excessive character-bashing to be worth salvaging, but the troper put it back up. So in order to prevent an edit war, I'm presenting my reasons why this trope in its current form does not deserve to be here.
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I deleted this entry the first time it was posted because I felt it was too chock-full of inaccuracies and excessive character-bashing to be worth salvaging, but the troper put it back up. So in order to prevent an edit war, I\'m presenting my reasons why this trope in its current form does not deserve to be here.
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra's tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President's back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn't concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSideHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was
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* To say that Mako prioritized his job over Korra\'s tribe and villify him for it is ignoring the fairly nuanced morality that was going on in this part of the story. Korra wanted to save her tribe, but she was willing to do some really shady stuff to accomplish that, like going behind the President\'s back to drag the United Republic into a war that, by all appearances, didn\'t concern it, a move that Mako expressed disagreement with when he heard about it from Bolin. [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Both Korra and Mako had understandable and justifiable reasons for their actions]], but who exactly was \"right\" is a matter of debate.
* Asami kissed Mako during an emotionally vulnerable moment (which is when you could say she officially tried to bounce back to Mako), which she immediately apologized to him for. But to say that she \"took advantage\" of Korra and Mako\'s fractured relationship as the sole reason for this is pure RonTheDeathEater.
* Asami played no part in locking Mako up. That was all Varrick. RonTheDeathEater again.
* Ginger does not becomes Bolin\'s girlfriend. The only thing he ever does is make advances toward her that she does not want. Bolin was being stupid, but to say she was only using him for publicity is false because she very clearly didn\'t want anything to do with him outside her professional life at all. While you certainly could make a case for this when Ginger did begin to show interest in him, the whole issue gets dropped at that point and Bolin\'s attention is drawn towards other, more important things for the rest of the season.
Furthermore, the DesignatedHero trope is being misused here. As the opening paragraph on its main page says: \"A Designated Hero is a character in a story who, despite being presented as heroic, is actually a Jerkass at best and an arguable villain at worst. This is not the same as the deliberately morally ambiguous Anti-Hero. \'\'\'From the praise they receive from other characters and even the narrative, it is plain that the audience is expected to like and root for the Designated Hero; instead, they have problems that can even inspire pity or, on rare occasions, disgust\'\'\'.\"
We can see that this is clearly \'\'not\'\' the case here. The characters\' less-than-stellar actions throughout the season are frequently portrayed in a very negative light.
* Korra\'s general {{Jerkass}} behavior towards Tenzin and her turning to Unalaq as her mentor is not depicted as a good thing; it\'s shown to be a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero when the latter is revealed to be the ArcVillain of the season. In \"The Guide,\" she even acknowledges that the civil war was her fault, showing she knows her earlier actions were not good.
* Mako\'s disruptions of Korra\'s plans to get Republic City involved in the war thoroughly pisses Korra off and triggers an angry confrontation between the two. So even if you agree that this was hands-down a bad action on his part, he still gets called out on it.
* Mako\'s lying to an amnesiac Korra gets him a DeathGlare from Asami, some reproachful mocking from Bolin, and serves as the final straw for the Avatar, prompting her to break up with him for good. And even Mako himself knows that it was wrong.
* Bolin makes a turn from his previous self-centered behavior when he realizes that CelebrityIsOverrated and expresses feeling emptiness with Team Avatar divided.
* Mako and Asami hooking up a week after the breakup with Korra, which I would personally call a weak reason to label someone a DesignatedHero over (pun not intended), gets called out on by Bolin.
