History YMMV / TheLegendOfKorra

17th Jul '16 8:25:57 PM firejewel
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** Furthermore, is Korra and [[spoiler: Asami's]] new relationship the product of a perfectly healthy step forward in an already stable friendship? Or is it the result of Korra's stifled and restricted lifestyle, wherein she never interacted with other boys and girls her own age growing up?
16th Jul '16 9:04:53 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Among many of those who support the idea behind the [[BiTheWay controversial ending]], but don't like how it was executed. Kind of... [[spoiler:Although they're glad it happened, they wished they didn't have to downplay it, since as it stands, perhaps it's a bit too ambiguous for its own good (Mike and Bryan ''did'' have to go out of their way to confirm that, yes, it was what it looked like, and promised to build onto it [[TheResolutionWillNotBeTelevised on future comics]]), and the whole relationship was not as developed as it could be (the ShipTease starts a bit out of nowhere in Season 3 after two seasons of them being stuck in a LoveTriangle with Mako, which is kind of a big leap, all things considered).]]

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** Among many of those who support the idea behind the [[BiTheWay controversial ending]], but don't like how it was executed. Kind of... [[spoiler:Although they're glad it happened, they wished they didn't have to downplay it, since as it stands, perhaps it's a bit too ambiguous for its own good (Mike and Bryan ''did'' have to go out of their way to confirm that, yes, it was what it looked like, and promised to build onto it [[TheResolutionWillNotBeTelevised on future comics]]), and the whole relationship was not as developed as it could be (the ShipTease starts a bit out of nowhere in Season 3 after two seasons of them being stuck in a LoveTriangle with Mako, which is kind of a big leap, all things considered).considered, and it still doesn't delivers anything that could be considered a definitive declaration of love up until the ''very last scene of the whole series'').]]
16th Jul '16 8:54:05 AM marcoasalazarm
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** The discovery by Bolin [[spoiler: that she is [[ANaziByOtherName taking people (Earthbender and not) to "re-education camps"]]]] don't win her any favors, either.



* RonTheDeathEater: As a corollary to Kuvira's DILP status, Suyin is essentially blamed for the whole mess because she refused to take charge of the Earth Kingdom, with some going so far as to say she deserved [[spoiler:Zaofu being conquered by Kuvira]] for her inaction. It certainly doesn't help matters that betrayal is not something Suyin handles well, so she comes across as uncharacteristically abrasive. Her treatement of [[spoiler:an emotionally broken and genuinely repentant Kuvira as opposed to her [[EasilyForgiven instantly forgiving]] Bataar Jr.]] only gave her hatedom more fuel.

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* RonTheDeathEater: As a corollary to Kuvira's DILP status, Suyin is essentially blamed for the whole mess because she refused to take charge of the Earth Kingdom, with some going so far as to say she deserved [[spoiler:Zaofu being conquered by Kuvira]] for her inaction. It certainly doesn't help matters that betrayal is not something Suyin handles well, so she comes across as uncharacteristically abrasive. Her treatement treatment of [[spoiler:an emotionally broken and genuinely repentant Kuvira as opposed to her [[EasilyForgiven instantly forgiving]] Bataar Jr.]] only gave her hatedom more fuel.


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** Among many of those who support the idea behind the [[BiTheWay controversial ending]], but don't like how it was executed. Kind of... [[spoiler:Although they're glad it happened, they wished they didn't have to downplay it, since as it stands, perhaps it's a bit too ambiguous for its own good (Mike and Bryan ''did'' have to go out of their way to confirm that, yes, it was what it looked like, and promised to build onto it [[TheResolutionWillNotBeTelevised on future comics]]), and the whole relationship was not as developed as it could be (the ShipTease starts a bit out of nowhere in Season 3 after two seasons of them being stuck in a LoveTriangle with Mako, which is kind of a big leap, all things considered).]]
15th Jul '16 4:39:24 PM TheRoguePenguin
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*** Some fans have said that Suyin's selfish choices and negligance to admit to them have put her whole family at risk. When asked to provide assistance in rebuilding the Earth Kingdom, she may have misunderstood or as said above hoped that the problem would be resolved on its own (or at least by the will of the people). When Kuvira marched on Zaofu, her choice to [[spoiler:take her sons with her to assassinate Kuvira]] has left the city without a leader to maintain its defenses, leaving the citizens (including her family still remaining in the city) to be taken prisoner. Lastly, by encouraging Korra in the Korra verses Kuvira fight to use the Avatar State, [[spoiler:she caused her to have that moment that gave Kuvira the upperhand in the fight (though arguably, Korra might have planned to use it all along; but as it turned out to be a bad decision that Suyin encouraged, this goes a long way to show just how badly her choices have gone).]]
*** Many went deeper, and theorized that her negligance may be reflected in Baatar Jr's choice to join Kuvira. As she, much like season three, gave him very little attention (if at all), this might be justified (but may lead to an OedipusComplex).



*** In Toph's final scene of the show, when asked why she wasn't going to help, she claimed that this was a job for the next generation. Some have accepted this, but for many others it wasn't justified.
15th Jul '16 3:48:38 PM Namor21
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**** Many went deeper, and theorized that her negligance may be reflected in Baatar Jr's choice to join Kuvira. As she, much like season three, gave him very little attention (if at all), this might be justified (but may lead to an OedipusComplex).


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*** In Toph's final scene of the show, when asked why she wasn't going to help, she claimed that this was a job for the next generation. Some have accepted this, but for many others it wasn't justified.
15th Jul '16 3:40:21 PM Namor21
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*** Some fans have said that Suyin's selfish choices and negligance to admit to them have put her whole family at risk. When asked to provide assistance in rebuilding the Earth Kingdom, she may have misunderstood or as said above hoped that the problem would be resolved on its own (or at least by the will of the people). When Kuvira marched on Zaofu, her choice to [[spoiler:take her sons with her to assassinate Kuvira]] has left the city without a leader to maintain its defenses, leaving the citizens (including her family still remaining in the city) to be taken prisoner. Lastly, by encouraging Korra in the Korra verses Kuvira fight to use the Avatar State, [[spoiler:she caused her to have that moment that gave Kuvira the upperhand in the fight (though arguably, Korra might have planned to use it all along; but as it turned out to be a bad decision that Suyin encouraged, this goes a long way to show just how badly her choices have gone).]]
12th Jul '16 4:34:50 PM ProbableCod
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* AssPull: The Harmonic Convergence created a shift in the world's energy which caused random non-benders to suddenly become airbenders. No proper explanation is ever given for this and it doesn't fit in at all with the rest of the franchise's canon, which previously established source of bending as being a gift from the lion turtles passed down through the descendants of those they gave the power to.



* ArcFatigue: Korra's BrokenBird arc as a whole, but in the attempt to break it down into factors: Obviously in [[RealLife reality]] it takes a long time to get over PTSD, if ever, and mercury poisoning can cause serious damage, but in a thirteen-episode season (which is set after a ''three year'' TimeSkip) the amount of time spent getting Korra better borders on excessive, and isn't helped by the fact that [[YoYoPlotPoint she keeps going back to the same issues several times over]]. Her nightmares of her battle with Zaheer keep being revisited as a problem even after being supposedly cured once while Dark Avatar Korra is reduced to a DiabolusExMachina that Korra doesn't so much as hint at to another person (and only appears ''twice'' throughout the season and [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse then disappears, without even a "final showdown" of some type]]), and she gets cured of the mercury poisoning completely just in time to make her fight with Kuvira one of the [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]] mentioned below (and is still "rusty" martial arts-wise for what remains of the season). [[OutOfFocus Korra's overall reduced screen time for the season]] and the fact that it turns her into a [[FailureHero Failure Heroine]] (or an even bigger one, in some detractors' eyes) whose moments when [[HesBack she is back to being useful]] are mere [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]] and the sheer unrelenting {{Wangst}} of it... these are the factors.



** Kuvira. Some people view her [[WellIntentionedExtremist noble cause]], impressive amounts of power and competence to back it up, her status as Korra's foil, and a rare female BigBad make her a compelling villain. Others see her as ObviouslyEvil and portrayed as a StrawHypocrite so [[{{Anvilicious}} transparently]] insincere that she comes off as a one-dimensional and uninteresting villain, or yet another instance of the series' problem with BlackAndWhiteMorality. The revelation that she's [[spoiler:rounding up non-native benders and sending them to camps]] was viewed as a pointless KickTheDog that lends support to the latter interpretation, mostly because there is zero foreshadowing and it doesn't really seem to fit her motives. Then with ''Kuvira's Gambit'' it's revealed that she does seem to care deeply for Baatar Jr., humanizing her and giving the former camp support, although the fact that [[spoiler: she also tried to kill Baatar Jr. at the end]] brings people back right into the second. [[spoiler:And though the series finale has her accepting responsibility for her actions and gives her a FreudianExcuse to further humanize her, some fans felt it was a little late to be sorry considering all the harm she's caused.]] Meanwhile, some fans don't mind the moral debates, but just think she's far too powerful to the point where it's unrealistic. There's complaints about her being too overpowered a fighter, able to completely overpower Korra in their fight without getting hit once before Korra uses the Avatar State, and strategically able to outmaneuver everyone else in the series causing people to think she's a InvincibleVillain.



** Su's final line, telling Kuvira she'll pay in full for her crimes is a bit off due to a stilted delivery, and the fact Kuvira ''just'' said that she'll accept whatever punishment they see fit.
** Bataar Jr. occasionally growling like an animal doesn't make him sound more intimidating or threatening, it just comes across as unnecessary.



** Toph also mentioning that she and Katara are too old to help with the next generation's problems might seem a weak excuse, given the numerous elderly characters that contributed in the original series.



* TheScrappy: Bataar Jr. is as reviled as [[HarryPotter Percy Weasley.]] It certainly didn't help that [[spoiler:he was EasilyForgiven by Suyin while an emotionally broken and genuinely repentant Kuvira only gets a cold "You will pay for everything you've done" response despite Bataar Jr. being just as involved in Kuvira's plans as Kuvira was.]]



** Dark Avatar Korra comes and goes with no explanation as to what she's supposed to be, when that conflict could have been a much better substitute for one of the three times Korra had to deal with the nightmares.
** Kuvira. While she was certainly better developed than Unalaq, much of the season was spent seeing how many puppies she could kick rather than developing her as a person. Her motives were somewhat explained in the end, but it was largely in a single last minute conversation. Unlike Amon and Zaheer, there were no other major antagonists such as Tarrlok, the Triads, or the Earth Queen to highlight the better points of her ideology and actions, and the minor ones that did (the bandits) were quickly tossed aside to showcase Kuvira's personal cruelty. Additionally, some major aspects about her character were barely touched upon or never explained at all; for example, why did she see the need for ethnic cleansing? What was the point of enslaving the people of the Earth Kingdom when her ultimate goal was to make them feel safe? What exactly caused a heroic, idealistic young woman to turn into such a monstrous, bloodthirsty tyrant?



** Among many of those who support the idea behind the [[BiTheWay controversial ending]], but don't like how it was executed. Kind of... [[spoiler:Although they're glad it happened, they wished they didn't have to downplay it, since as it stands, perhaps it's a bit too ambiguous for its own good (Mike and Bryan did have to go out of their way to confirm that, yes, it was what it looked like), and the whole relationship was not as developed as it could be (the ShipTease starts a bit out of nowhere in Season 3 after two seasons of them being stuck in a LoveTriangle with Mako, which is kind of a big leap, all things considered).]]



** Kuvira being the antagonist of Book 4 was so obvious from her short appearance in "Enter the Void" that pretty much everyone saw it coming. She didn't ''do'' anything villainous -- to the contrary, she saved Tonraq's life -- but her ominous music and odd introduction were quite unsubtle.

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** Kuvira being the antagonist of Book 4 was so obvious from her short appearance in "Enter the Void" that pretty much everyone saw it coming. She didn't ''do'' anything villainous -- to the contrary, she saved Tonraq's life -- but her ominous music and odd introduction were quite unsubtle.
12th Jul '16 4:28:24 PM ProbableCod
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** The initial announcement that none of the original cast would be prominent on the reasoning that they had all died off served to put off many incoming fans. While some such as Katara, Zuko, and Toph all eventually reemerged as time went on, for some it remained a sticky point as the series carried on.
** After the show ran, some old ATLA fans came out to complain of how much this series isn't like the old show and therefore sucks. Despite Mike and Bryan hinting several times that they wanted to create something different from ATLA.



** While not disliked enough to be TheScrappy, a number of fans never warmed up to Suyin Beifong, the long lost half-sister of Lin Beifong introduced in season 3. Due to her rather unapologetic attitude about her criminal past, which included disfiguring Lin and getting away with it, a number of fans saw Suyin as a smug KarmaHoudini instead of the cool, complex older lady that the show's writers obviously wanted them to see her as being, and for some her less than sincere apology to Lin at the end of ''Old Wounds'' came off as unintentionally funny.
*** This has only gotten worse in Season 4, where it's rather sharply debated if Suyin's decision not to get involved with reuniting the Earth Kingdom was a principled attempt to not force her ideals on others or selfishly abandoning everyone outside her city to the mercy of bandits and warlords and refusing to lift a finger to help the barely-trained Airbenders doing their best to assist the situation. The season's BigBad Kuvira can have her ascendency at least partially blamed on Suyin's BystanderSyndrome, although her exact culpability is a very divisive point among fans.



** Perhaps it shouldn't be surprising that grumpy old granny Toph Bei Fong also has some of this going for her. We're supposed to feel bad for her when she and Lin are finally together again for the first time in thirty years and things don't exactly go smoothly. Although Toph does admit she was a bad mother and says she's proud of Lin, it does not change the fact that Toph still acts like a nasty, arrogant old woman who is generally disrespectful towards people because she thinks it's funny. And it is still her fault that the estrangement happened in the first place due to her insensitive hypocrisy.



** Tenzin regularly wanders into this territory. While he is positioned as the the mentor and the voice of reason, his actual views are often extremely regressive and to favor a non-egalitarian status quo; even when the audience knows the other side of the argument is a WellIntentionedExtremist being set up to be a season's BigBad, Tenzin has a tendency to reject their valid complaints for the wrong reasons well before any direct evidence of their villainy comes to light.
11th Jul '16 1:23:51 AM DivineDeath
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* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler: Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra's tribe's safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra's feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric's lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that's just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
9th Jul '16 11:39:55 AM Immortalbear
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* DesignatedHero: One of the biggest problems of Book 2 is that Team Avatar is very divided and have varying degrees of unsympathetic qualities. [[spoiler: Korra ignores her mentor, again, in favor of a new teacher, loses fights constantly, and maintains a mopey demeanor throughout the second half of the season. Mako prioritizes his job over Korra's tribe's safety and quickly rebounds with Asami after they break up. He later lies by omitting the truth that they broke up when Korra has amnesia. Asami as established before, disregards Korra's feelings and hooks up with Mako when she realizes she can take advantage of their fractured relationship. Not that it matters because she later falls for Varric's lies and has Mako arrested. Bolin loses any interest out any of his friends when he becomes a movie star and stupidly attaches himself to a woman that's just using him for publicity. In this season, many viewers were left wondering how these people could be friends at all.]]
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