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I\'ve been doing some editing of the historical example involving USS \'\'Constitution\'\', expanding it and adding a few other cases where she and her sister ships have no-sold things that would have severely damaged a more typical wooden ship.
However, there was one thing I wanted to address for posterity, in case it comes up again. I removed this bit that was added earlier this year by AFP--
-->6th May \'15 6:45:02 AM \'\'\'@/{{AFP}}\'\'\'
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-->Note that during the War of 1812, \'\'Constitution\'\' (a 48 gun Heavy Frigate) primarily fought against lighter British frigates (with armament typically in the range of about 30 cannons). Had the British not otherwise been distracted with the NapoleonicWars, the American frigates would likely find themselves overwhelmed by the much heavier Ships of the Line that the Royal Navy could bring into the fight.
This wrongly leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
However, there was one thing I wanted to address for posterity, in case it comes up again. I removed this bit that was added earlier this year by AFP--
-->6th May \'15 6:45:02 AM \'\'\'@/{{AFP}}\'\'\'
-->[-\'\'\'Changed line(s) 738 (click to see context) to:\'\'\'-]
-->Note that during the War of 1812, \'\'Constitution\'\' (a 48 gun Heavy Frigate) primarily fought against lighter British frigates (with armament typically in the range of about 30 cannons). Had the British not otherwise been distracted with the NapoleonicWars, the American frigates would likely find themselves overwhelmed by the much heavier Ships of the Line that the Royal Navy could bring into the fight.
This wrongly leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
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This wrongly leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
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This wrongly leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' encountered HMS \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \\\"Great Chase,\\\" which is why I replaced his revision with a statement pointing this out. I\\\'m a bit slow to trust Wikpedia on this (this bit is unsourced), but it says that 11 British ships of the line were involved in the War of 1812 overall.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. The Royal Navy \\\'\\\'couldn\\\'t\\\'\\\' afford to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have made sense for the Royal Navy to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. The Royal Navy \\\'\\\'couldn\\\'t\\\'\\\' afford to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have made sense for the Royal Navy to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
