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* \\\'\\\'\\\'Puts you down or says you aren\\\'t good enough\\\'\\\'\\\': \\\"Wash that \\\'\\\'\\\'ridiculous\\\'\\\'\\\' make up from your face.\\\" Now, here\\\'s something from a teaching standpoint, and that I can speak about with authority: A teacher must never \\\'\\\'ever\\\'\\\' insult a child\\\'s appearance. NEVER. It\\\'s mean-spirited and it\\\'s unprofessional. It demotes you from authority figure to bitchy teenage wannabe. It doesn\\\'t matter if you think they clearly spent more time on their lipstick that morning that they did on their homework, or if their perfume makes your eyes water, or if their hair ruins the feng shui of your classroom. You \\\'\\\'are\\\'\\\' entitled to speak to them about dress code or health and safety issues, but you do \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' insult the child him or herself. \\\"You can\\\'t wear make up in science -- it affects the experiments\\\" is reasonable. \\\"You look ridiculous\\\" is not, and is grounds for parental complaint (sadly, that\\\'s no help to Annie here). Yes, there are teachers who do it and get away with it. There are people who steal and get away with it too, it doesn\\\'t make it any better.
* \\\'\\\'\\\'Ignores you or leaves you out of things\\\'\\\'\\\': Let\\\'s put aside the glaringly obvious \\\"where the heck were you for three years?\\\" Leaves her out of things..? Such as three years of his life? Or any say in drastic life changes? Or even the courtesy of \\\"Annie, I\\\'m returning to the Court. I didn\\\'t want you to get a shock in front of your classmates, so I\\\'m telling you now\\\"?
* \\\'\\\'\\\'Pushes you away or makes you feel like you don\\\'t belong in the family\\\'\\\'\\\': Doesn\\\'t come much more \\\"push them away\\\" than dumping them in a boarding school without a word of contact for years. And while I doubt that this is \\\"concrete\\\" enough for detractors, there\\\'s something really unnerving about that moment where Anthony marches past his child without a word while her mother reassures her \\\"He still loves you very much\\\". The way that scene is set up, Annie is quite clearly an interloper.
* \\\'\\\'\\\'Stops you from having friends\\\'\\\'\\\': Let\\\'s ignore the fact that Rey has been filling the role of paternal figure for years (\\\'\\\'including\\\'\\\' berating her for cheating!), and assume Anthony has learned nothing of the bond his daughter has formed with him. Let\\\'s focus on the \\\"safe\\\" people of the Court (a very relative term). He does not send her to a different dorm. He doesn\\\'t tell her she\\\'ll have to make new associations in Year 9. He sends her to live \\\'\\\'on her own\\\'\\\', making the excuse that all of the dorms -- in the vast, empty sprawl of the Court -- are full. He makes it very clear that he does not intend for her to socialise. That is deliberate isolation.
* \\\'\\\'\\\'Tries to control you or push you too hard\\\'\\\'\\\': Let\\\'s get this straight: He was correct to call her out on cheating. It was correct that she was punished in some way, and even though this particular punishment is harsh, I doubt that anyone could doubt its validity if they were cornered on it. However, Anthony is tearing apart Annie\\\'s new \\\"normal\\\". She lost her \\\"normality\\\" once before, with Surma\\\'s death and Anthony\\\'s abandonment. She was punted into a school without any guidance from her father (who dropped off the face of the earth). She knew was lonely and isolated, then she adjusted, made friends, and grew as a person . A big part of that growth was deciding, rightly or wrongly, that she couldn\\\'t depend on adults for guidance -- after all, her dad wasn\\\'t keen to give her any advice, why should anyone else? Now the same adult that forced her into this situation is back and demanding that she submit to his guidance and absolute control. No discussion, no prior warning or explanation (how different would this scene be if he had said \\\"I don\\\'t want you going into the Forest because it\\\'s dangerous\\\"?) -- just \\\"I say it, so therefore that\\\'s what\\\'s happening.\\\" At Annie\\\'s age, even without her life experiences so far, she should at least have a say in these matters. Even if he chooses to ignore her, she should at least get a chance to speak.

As to why he has no qualifications to deal with Rey...according to everyone else, this is a man who despises (or at least fears) magic. Jones may have been trying to rile Annie up when she mentioned this, but Jones is also not a liar. You do not hand over care of your tarantula to someone with arachnophobia. You do not hand total control over a magical being to someone with a grudge against that particular magical being who already dislikes them for being what they are.


As I said before, I don\\\'t doubt there is more going on here than meets the eye. But the entire \\\"Divine\\\" chapter suggests that Anthony is dangerous to his daughter whether he intends to be or not, and I think Anthony\\\'s defenders are very quick to ignore that.
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