History DethroningMoment / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic

24th Mar '17 2:50:58 PM SenorCornholio
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** {{@/Psyga315}}: With the wounds of ACW mended, it feels sensible to shift to a new DMOS. No, it's not how Celestia and the others were captured to make Starlight look good; [[AuthorsSavingThrow they actually introduced her and fleshed her out a bit]] unlike what they did with [[AssPull Shining Armor and Cadance]]. The problem here is that the heroes simply let Chrysalis go. You're telling me that you imprison (or even kill) villains who enslave Equestria under different means ranging from eternal night/chaos to draining Equestria of all its magic, sometimes twice, and yet for the villain who caused terrorist attacks and multiple kidnappings (and if we're accounting comics as canon, the genocide of an entire nation), you not only offer a hoof of friendship (granted, the one who offered said friendship was no saint herself) but when she obviously didn't go for it, just let her go despite knowing full well that she'll be back? There's TurnTheOtherCheek and then there's [[TheFarmerAndTheViper letting a known terrorist linger around]]. There's an old saying: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E25ACanterlotWeddingPart1 Fool me once]], [[YouMonster shame on you]]. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E25ToWhereAndBackAgainPart1 Fool me twice]], [[WhatAnIdiot shame on me]].

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** {{@/Psyga315}}: With the wounds of ACW mended, it feels sensible to shift to a new DMOS. No, it's not how Celestia and the others were captured to make Starlight look good; [[AuthorsSavingThrow they actually introduced her and fleshed her out a bit]] unlike what they did with [[AssPull Shining Armor and Cadance]]. The problem here is that the heroes simply let Chrysalis go. You're telling me that you imprison (or even kill) villains who enslave Equestria under different means ranging from eternal night/chaos to draining Equestria of all its magic, sometimes twice, and yet for the villain who caused terrorist attacks and multiple kidnappings (and if we're accounting comics as canon, the genocide of an entire nation), you not only offer a hoof of friendship (granted, the one who offered said friendship [[HeelFaceTurn was no saint herself) herself]]) but when she obviously didn't go for it, just let her go despite knowing full well that she'll be back? There's TurnTheOtherCheek and then there's [[TheFarmerAndTheViper letting a known terrorist linger around]]. There's an old saying: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E25ACanterlotWeddingPart1 Fool me once]], [[YouMonster shame on you]]. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E25ToWhereAndBackAgainPart1 Fool me twice]], [[WhatAnIdiot shame on me]].
24th Mar '17 2:44:13 PM SenorCornholio
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''"Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned to prevent [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck these horrible, awful, and shoddy moments]] from ever happening again."''

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-> ''"Dear Princess Celestia, today I we learned to prevent [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck these horrible, awful, and shoddy moments]] from ever happening again."''



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17th Mar '17 3:31:05 PM Spanks
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15th Mar '17 3:13:53 PM SenorCornholio
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** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.

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** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above below troper has most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.
15th Mar '17 3:08:53 PM SenorCornholio
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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforethePonies The Cart Before the Ponies]]
** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.



** Tropers/MorphinBrony: Retracting my [=DMOS=] for "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies The Cart Before the Ponies]]" in exchange for this episode. After the aggravation that was my previous [=DMOS=], I was hoping this episode would be an improvement... [[ThisIsGonnaSuck It's telling, then,]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere that I couldn't even finish my first viewing of this episode.]] Once again we have massive CharacterDerailment for all parties involved, with Rainbow Dash holding the JerkassBall and everypony else [[DesignatedHero trying to get back at her.]] The episode turns poor Rainbow into a ButtMonkey in order to deliver a BrokenAesop about pranks going too far with a side order of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop; i.e., if your friend is being a jerk, just be a bigger jerk right back to them. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E8TheMysteriousMareDoWell Sound familiar?]] And that's this episode's biggest problem: it doesn't just turn everypony involved into jerks, it doesn't just heap abuse onto a pony who, logically speaking, would probably already know not to take pranks too far, but that it rehashes an already divisive episode and reworks it for the "It's just a prank, bro" crowd. Between this and the aforementioned Cart Before the Ponies, I'm starting to think that all of the good writers for the show who aren't named Josh Haber were either busy with Legend of Everfree or the movie this season, and they just grabbed a couple interns from Hasbro's accounting department, plopped them in front of Microsoft Word and said "Here, we need 19 episodes before we finish Legend of Everfree." However, I'm hopeful. As they say, once you've hit rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. Except this episode managed to [[UpToEleven go past rock bottom, through the Earth's core, out the other side in China, and kept going until it crashed into the Moon.]]
* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforethePonies The Cart Before the Ponies]]
** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.

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** Tropers/MorphinBrony: Retracting my [=DMOS=] for "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies The "The Cart Before the Ponies]]" Ponies" in exchange for this episode. After the aggravation that was my previous [=DMOS=], I was hoping this episode would be an improvement... [[ThisIsGonnaSuck It's telling, then,]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere that I couldn't even finish my first viewing of this episode.]] Once again we have massive CharacterDerailment for all parties involved, with Rainbow Dash holding the JerkassBall and everypony else [[DesignatedHero trying to get back at her.]] The episode turns poor Rainbow into a ButtMonkey in order to deliver a BrokenAesop about pranks going too far with a side order of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop; i.e., if your friend is being a jerk, just be a bigger jerk right back to them. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E8TheMysteriousMareDoWell Sound familiar?]] And that's this episode's biggest problem: it doesn't just turn everypony involved into jerks, it doesn't just heap abuse onto a pony who, logically speaking, would probably already know not to take pranks too far, but that it rehashes an already divisive episode and reworks it for the "It's just a prank, bro" crowd. Between this and the aforementioned Cart Before the Ponies, I'm starting to think that all of the good writers for the show who aren't named Josh Haber were either busy with Legend of Everfree or the movie this season, and they just grabbed a couple interns from Hasbro's accounting department, plopped them in front of Microsoft Word and said "Here, we need 19 episodes before we finish Legend of Everfree." However, I'm hopeful. As they say, once you've hit rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. Except this episode managed to [[UpToEleven go past rock bottom, through the Earth's core, out the other side in China, and kept going until it crashed into the Moon.]]
* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforethePonies The Cart Before the Ponies]]
** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.
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14th Mar '17 3:13:49 PM Ferigeras
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** Tropers/{{Ferigeras}}: Now don't get me wrong, as a whole I really liked this finale. I liked the different timelines (even if they were blatant and annoying FanficFuel), all the cameos of older villains (Although I would have really loved to see more of Tirek) and I actually liked the ending a lot. But it has one I just can't... accept, and something that in retrospect suddenly makes earlier episodes uncomfortable to watch. My [[DethroningMomentOfSuck Dethroning Moment]] is what would have happened to Equestria if Rainbow Dash didn't perform the Sonic Rainboom. Now I do like the fact that they touched on an early episode in the way they did, but what really bothered me was the fact that it's this ONE event that the ''entirety of Equestria'' depended on... I just can't get behind that. Now the finale did attempt to show how [[AnAesop even the smallest changes can have the biggest changes]], but I think the friendship of the Mane 6 being dependant on that one event could have been enough, not Equestria as a whole! Look, I do realize this could make technical sense if you actually watched most of the show up to that point, but this is one of the biggest exaggerations any show could have ever made. That would mean if the Manes 6 weren't... the Mane 6, all those villains we have seen would have just succeeded and all of Equestria would have become horrible, which I think is just [[FridgeHorror way too disturbing and overly depressing if you actually really thought about it]]. Not to mention it's extremely stupid and implies that the Mane 6 are literally the ''only'' things capable of keeping Equestria peaceful... this is just a stupid thought that just ''reeks'' of [[ParanoiaFuel Paranoia Fuel]]. Like, how the hell did Equestria even last this long under such circumstances?

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** Tropers/{{Ferigeras}}: Now don't get me wrong, as a whole I really liked this finale. I liked the different timelines that were showcased (even if they were blatant and annoying FanficFuel), all the cameos of older villains (Although I would have really loved to see more of Tirek) and I actually kinda liked the ending a lot. ending. But it has one critical moment I just can't... accept, really despise, and something that in retrospect suddenly makes some of the earlier episodes uncomfortable hard to watch. My What I consider to be this show's [[DethroningMomentOfSuck Dethroning Moment]] is how Rainbow Dash failing to perform her first Sonic Rainboom was this critical to this plot, and what would have happened to Equestria if Rainbow Dash didn't perform the Sonic Rainboom. as an effect. Now I do like the fact that they touched on an early episode in the way they did, but what really bothered me was the fact that it's this ONE SINGLE event that the ''entirety of Equestria'' somehow depended on... I just can't get behind that. Now the finale did attempt to show how [[AnAesop even the smallest changes can have the biggest changes]], but I think this was simply exaggerating it in the worst way possible. I mean sure, back in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles" they did show how this event linked the Mane 6 together, but for that friendship of to mean everything for the Mane 6 being dependant on that one event could have been enough, not fate of Equestria as a whole! Look, I do realize whole is almost incomprehensible. Like seriously, according to this could make technical sense if you actually watched most of the show up to that point, but this is one of the biggest exaggerations any show could have ever made. That would mean finale, if the Manes 6 weren't... the Mane 6, all those villains we have seen would have just succeeded and all of Equestria would have become horrible, been devastated in one way or another, which I think is just [[FridgeHorror way too disturbing and overly almost depressing if you actually really thought about it]]. Not to mention it's extremely stupid and how it basically implies that the Mane 6 are literally the ''only'' things capable of keeping Equestria peaceful... this is just a stupid thought peaceful. If that just ''reeks'' of [[ParanoiaFuel Paranoia Fuel]]. Like, was the case, how the hell did Equestria even last this long under such circumstances?
2nd Mar '17 12:15:49 PM SorPepita
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** {{@/Psyga315}}: With the wounds of ACW mended, it feels sensible to shift to a new DMOS. No, it's not how Celestia and the others were captured to make Starlight look good; [[AuthorsSavingThrow they actually introduced her and fleshed her out a bit]] unlike what they did with [[AssPull Shining Armor and Cadance]]. The problem here is that the heroes simply let Chrysalis go. You're telling me that you imprison (or even kill) villains who enslave Equestria under different means ranging from eternal night/chaos to draining Equestria of all its magic, sometimes twice, and yet for the villain who caused terrorist attacks and multiple kidnappings (and if we're accounting comics as canon, the genocide of an entire nation), you not only offer a hoof of friendship (granted, the one who offered said friendship was no saint herself) but when she obviously didn't go for it, just let her go despite knowing full well that she'll be back? There's TurnTheOtherCheek and then there's [[TheFarmerAndTheViper letting a known terrorist linger around]]. There's an old saying: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E25ACanterlotWeddingPart1 Fool me once]], [[YouMonster shame on you]]. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E25ToWhereAndBackAgainPart1 Fool me twice]], [[WhatAnIdiot Shame on me]].

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** {{@/Psyga315}}: With the wounds of ACW mended, it feels sensible to shift to a new DMOS. No, it's not how Celestia and the others were captured to make Starlight look good; [[AuthorsSavingThrow they actually introduced her and fleshed her out a bit]] unlike what they did with [[AssPull Shining Armor and Cadance]]. The problem here is that the heroes simply let Chrysalis go. You're telling me that you imprison (or even kill) villains who enslave Equestria under different means ranging from eternal night/chaos to draining Equestria of all its magic, sometimes twice, and yet for the villain who caused terrorist attacks and multiple kidnappings (and if we're accounting comics as canon, the genocide of an entire nation), you not only offer a hoof of friendship (granted, the one who offered said friendship was no saint herself) but when she obviously didn't go for it, just let her go despite knowing full well that she'll be back? There's TurnTheOtherCheek and then there's [[TheFarmerAndTheViper letting a known terrorist linger around]]. There's an old saying: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E25ACanterlotWeddingPart1 Fool me once]], [[YouMonster shame on you]]. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E25ToWhereAndBackAgainPart1 Fool me twice]], [[WhatAnIdiot Shame shame on me]].
2nd Mar '17 12:05:16 PM SorPepita
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** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has mos def made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.

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** Roland_Dhalgren: How can we have a DMOS section for Season 6 without giving special mention to "The Cart Before the Ponies", which is honestly kind of amazing in a few ways. It's amazing how AJ, Dash, and Rarity all take turns with not only the JerkAssBall but also the ConflictBall, giving the CMC more hell than they ever believably would. AJ might've gotten the worst of this, practically threatening to disown poor Apple Bloom over a friggin' cart race, being so [[{{Flanderization}} fixated on tradition]] that she outright ''kicks off Apple Bloom's contributions.'' You know things are bad when, of the three, [[JerkJock Dash]] comes off as the most likable. And that's not even getting to the race itself, ''whoo boy''. First of all, Cheerilee isn't known for being especially attentive, but she gets hit pretty hard with the IdiotBall in this episode. Rarity's cart design should by all rights get her disqualified, but Cheerilee ignores it. The adults drive the carts, even though they shouldn't be, but Cheerilee gives that a pass as well. And whoever designed this race track deserves a golden dunce cap. And as if to pour some salt on the wound, the adults in question [[EasilyForgiven get off pretty easily]] in the end. Terrible, ''terrible'' episode, but so much so that I find it [[BileFascination morbidly fascinating]]. Whether "28 Pranks Later" is worse or not certainly makes for interesting debate material, and the above troper has mos def most definitely made a compelling case for it being the worst episode of Season 6 and not "Cart", but this one aired first and sticks out in my mind as even more insultingly bad.
1st Mar '17 3:47:55 AM KatonRyu
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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart1 The Crystalling Part 1]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart2 Part 2]]

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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart1 The Crystalling Part 1]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart2 [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E2TheCrystallingPart2 Part 2]]
1st Mar '17 3:46:14 AM KatonRyu
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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart1 The Crystalling Part 1]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E1TheCrystallingPart2 Part 2]]
** Tropers/KatonRyu: My biggest problem with this episode is that nothing of the A plot had to happen. I hated the idea of Flurry Heart even before the episode came out and to my dismay the writers did exactly what I feared they would do with her. They made her responsible for the entire problem in the episode by being a baby with bursts of magic randomly exploding out of her. How hard would it be for Shining Armor, who, may I remind you, is an expert at ''shield magic'' to wrap her in a protective bubble that keeps her power from exploding out? He can shield the whole of Canterlot from attack, but creating a barrier to protect one baby from herself is too hard? If it hadn't been for Starlight's B plot being entertaining this whole episode would've been irredeemable to me.
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