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9th Jul '17 8:07:39 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** @/DonEast: I used to like Pinkie Pie, my second favorite pony overall behind Fluttershy. But as Season 2 progressed, I started to dislike her, namely how she was Flanderized from being a silly pony to hyperactive [[ManChild Mare Foal]] who won't shut up. The moment that solidified my disdain for the character was in this episode. The episode started out good, with a really good musical number in the first act and the events in the second act seemed to make this episode into a deconstruction of Pinkie's character as Cranky Doodle Donkey was repelled by Pinkie's usual antics. And then in the third act, Pinkie just so happens to know that Matilda, a donkey introduced in the opening scene is [[ContrivedCoincidence Cranky's lost love who has NOT moved on from him despite not seeing him for years,]] [[AssPull just so happen to live in Ponyville this entire time,]] [[DeusExMachina and because of this, Cranky accepts Pinkie's friendship.]] What. The. Fuck? Seriously, what is this bull crap. You just can't set up this episode with a more mature than usual moral yet give some ultra-contrived happy ending. And no, even though she wrote a letter to Celestia at the end, that doesn't justify the fact that she got her way in the end. I'm now convinced that the writers like Pinkie Pie too much to put her in any real crisis, anything that might lead her to develop away from being the one-dimensional GenkiGirl of the group, and an overall [[CreatorsPet Creator's Pet]]. Way to waste a perfectly good story by giving it a crappy ending, Amy Keating Rogers.

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** @/DonEast: I used to like Pinkie Pie, my second favorite pony overall behind Fluttershy. But as Season 2 progressed, I started to dislike her, namely how she was Flanderized from being a silly pony to hyperactive [[ManChild Mare Foal]] who won't shut up. The moment that solidified my disdain for the character was in this episode. The episode started out good, with a really good musical number in the first act and the events in the second act seemed to make this episode into a deconstruction of Pinkie's character as Cranky Doodle Donkey was repelled by Pinkie's usual antics. And then in the third act, Pinkie just so happens to know that Matilda, a donkey introduced in the opening scene is [[ContrivedCoincidence Cranky's lost love who has NOT moved on from him despite not seeing him for years,]] [[AssPull just so happen to live in Ponyville this entire time,]] [[DeusExMachina and because of this, Cranky accepts Pinkie's friendship.]] What. The. Fuck? Seriously, what is this bull crap. You just can't set up this episode with a more mature than usual moral yet give some ultra-contrived happy ending. And no, even though she wrote a letter to Celestia at the end, that doesn't justify the fact that she got her way in the end. I'm now convinced that the writers like Pinkie Pie too much to put her in any real crisis, anything that might lead her to develop away from being the one-dimensional GenkiGirl of the group, and an overall [[CreatorsPet Creator's Pet]].group. Way to waste a perfectly good story by giving it a crappy ending, Amy Keating Rogers.



** {{@/Roxor}}: "A Friend In Deed" was bad enough to make me stop watching the show (although I did make it through one more episode after this one out of sheer momentum). First we have to deal with a song which is way too long to enjoy in a voice which induces headaches, then Pinkie spends most of the episode acting like a school bully (seriously, her constant annoyance and fake "I don't know what you're talking about" act is classic bully behavior), then right when we expect her to get her comeuppance, the writers let her off the hook with an AssPull so huge it would involve volumes of waste comparable to that handled by a sewage treatment plant. Where was the ReasonYouSuckSpeech the whole episode had been building towards? Where was the friend to ask WhatTheHellHero? Or, even more importantly, where was Pinkie realizing MyGodWhatHaveIDone? We got none of that. All we got was the CreatorsPet getting a happy ending via DeusExMachina and an Aesop of "you can get whatever you want if you're sufficiently annoying". We're just going to get an epidemic of kids who don't know when to give up because of this, aren't we?

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** {{@/Roxor}}: "A Friend In Deed" was bad enough to make me stop watching the show (although I did make it through one more episode after this one out of sheer momentum). First we have to deal with a song which is way too long to enjoy in a voice which induces headaches, then Pinkie spends most of the episode acting like a school bully (seriously, her constant annoyance and fake "I don't know what you're talking about" act is classic bully behavior), then right when we expect her to get her comeuppance, the writers let her off the hook with an AssPull so huge it would involve volumes of waste comparable to that handled by a sewage treatment plant. Where was the ReasonYouSuckSpeech the whole episode had been building towards? Where was the friend to ask WhatTheHellHero? Or, even more importantly, where was Pinkie realizing MyGodWhatHaveIDone? We got none of that. All we got was the CreatorsPet Pinkie getting a happy ending via DeusExMachina and an Aesop of "you can get whatever you want if you're sufficiently annoying". We're just going to get an epidemic of kids who don't know when to give up because of this, aren't we?



** @/StormRequiem: I'm probably in the minority here, but I really, really disliked this episode. Why? Because, just my opinion, but the episode seemed like a totally pointless rehash of old Twilight-centric episodes. And I'll be honest here: I don't like Twilight Sparkle. She comes off as an annoying, KnowNothingKnowItAll and a CreatorsPet, but I was still willing to give this episode a try and now I wish I hadn't bothered. Where was the character development? I mean, Twilight Sparkle walked away from that whole time-travel thing learning not to worry about stuff? [[AesopAmnesia Isn't that, like, what about 50% of her episodes focus on anyway?]] Ticket-Master? Lesson Zero? Evidently, the lesson is not sticking. The episode had a really good potential premise, and instead it's wasted on some totally pointless, wacky hijinks. I feel guilty for even writing this because I am a Brony/Pegasister/whatever, but seriously, that episode has got to be in competition for my least favorite of season 2. The episode was hyped up to be really cool, because you know, time-travel, guys, and I even thought it might contain some foreshadowing for the series finale. But it just utterly screams a filler episode, and for a mostly slice-of-life cartoon, you have to be doing something really wrong for me to be shifting around impatiently waiting for something to actually happen. Twilight is supposed to be smart ([[InsufferableGenius or so she's constantly telling everyone]]), so why didn't it occur to her to, I don't know, break the timeloop? Surely it's not that hard to brush your own mane? And she just lets Spike eat ice-cream with Spike's justification that it's "future Spike's problem". Um, isn't Twilight supposed to be taking care of Spike? Who just lets their kid eat ice-cream all day? Not only that, but several moments in the episode did go wrong, and some of it was much more interesting that the episode's conclusion. Talk about TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. And there's the total inconsistency with Fluttershy's abilities. We're expected to believe that she can talk down the three-headed dog, a Cockatrice and a Manticore, but not a Hydra, Dragon or Ursa Minor? It just seemed stupid, not to mention another blatant attempt at giving Fluttershy a TookALevelInBadass moment, (like the totally ridiculous "bear neck-snap" scene in "Lesson Zero"), but really it just feels like they introduced a monster and then immediately wasted the idea by {{Handwaving}} it away. And the fact the Mane Five took Twilight seriously this time is a nod to how they dismissed her in "Lesson Zero", but then it seems like they might as well have not bothered, because Twilight's concerns were totally irrational and she isn't really chased up on on this despite all the unnecessary safety measurements Ponyville took for a disaster that never happened. And we're supposed to keep siding with Twilight, like in "A Canterlot Wedding", ignoring episodes like this one where's she's shown to be in the wrong or handed the IdiotBall and nobody cares, just because she's the lead character. It just makes her so unlikeable to me. Also, Princess Celestia is just weirdly okay with Twilight breaking into the library and using a spell to manipulate time? Really? [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E3LessonZero What happened to Celestia actually stepping in to tell Twilight when she's being stupid?]]

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** @/StormRequiem: I'm probably in the minority here, but I really, really disliked this episode. Why? Because, just my opinion, but the episode seemed like a totally pointless rehash of old Twilight-centric episodes. And I'll be honest here: I don't like Twilight Sparkle. She comes off as an annoying, KnowNothingKnowItAll and a CreatorsPet, KnowNothingKnowItAll, but I was still willing to give this episode a try and now I wish I hadn't bothered. Where was the character development? I mean, Twilight Sparkle walked away from that whole time-travel thing learning not to worry about stuff? [[AesopAmnesia Isn't that, like, what about 50% of her episodes focus on anyway?]] Ticket-Master? Lesson Zero? Evidently, the lesson is not sticking. The episode had a really good potential premise, and instead it's wasted on some totally pointless, wacky hijinks. I feel guilty for even writing this because I am a Brony/Pegasister/whatever, but seriously, that episode has got to be in competition for my least favorite of season 2. The episode was hyped up to be really cool, because you know, time-travel, guys, and I even thought it might contain some foreshadowing for the series finale. But it just utterly screams a filler episode, and for a mostly slice-of-life cartoon, you have to be doing something really wrong for me to be shifting around impatiently waiting for something to actually happen. Twilight is supposed to be smart ([[InsufferableGenius or so she's constantly telling everyone]]), so why didn't it occur to her to, I don't know, break the timeloop? Surely it's not that hard to brush your own mane? And she just lets Spike eat ice-cream with Spike's justification that it's "future Spike's problem". Um, isn't Twilight supposed to be taking care of Spike? Who just lets their kid eat ice-cream all day? Not only that, but several moments in the episode did go wrong, and some of it was much more interesting that the episode's conclusion. Talk about TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. And there's the total inconsistency with Fluttershy's abilities. We're expected to believe that she can talk down the three-headed dog, a Cockatrice and a Manticore, but not a Hydra, Dragon or Ursa Minor? It just seemed stupid, not to mention another blatant attempt at giving Fluttershy a TookALevelInBadass moment, (like the totally ridiculous "bear neck-snap" scene in "Lesson Zero"), but really it just feels like they introduced a monster and then immediately wasted the idea by {{Handwaving}} it away. And the fact the Mane Five took Twilight seriously this time is a nod to how they dismissed her in "Lesson Zero", but then it seems like they might as well have not bothered, because Twilight's concerns were totally irrational and she isn't really chased up on on this despite all the unnecessary safety measurements Ponyville took for a disaster that never happened. And we're supposed to keep siding with Twilight, like in "A Canterlot Wedding", ignoring episodes like this one where's she's shown to be in the wrong or handed the IdiotBall and nobody cares, just because she's the lead character. It just makes her so unlikeable to me. Also, Princess Celestia is just weirdly okay with Twilight breaking into the library and using a spell to manipulate time? Really? [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E3LessonZero What happened to Celestia actually stepping in to tell Twilight when she's being stupid?]]
30th Jun '17 4:39:22 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance. The show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the scale and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously the intelligence levels of individual members of a species will vary, but not that wildly.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance. The show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the scale and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously the intelligence levels of individual members of a species will vary, but not that wildly.
tolerance.
30th Jun '17 4:33:47 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this whole episode felt like a TakeThat to atheists and science. The moral basically turned out to be 'ScienceIsWrong, and trying to find proof to justify your opinions is wrong'. This makes it seem like atheists, who in my experience use scientific proof to justify their arguments, are wrong, while religious people, many of which rely on 'faith over proof' or hazy, undefined ideas such as 'God/Gods having a plan for humanity which is incomprehensible to us' are completely correct.



** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.
** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the scale and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously the intelligence levels of individual members of a species will vary, but not that wildly.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.
** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the
tolerance. The show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the scale and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously the intelligence levels of individual members of a species will vary, but not that wildly.wildly.
30th Jun '17 4:31:11 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this whole episode felt like a TakeThat to atheists and science. The moral basically turned out to be 'ScienceIsWrong, and trying to find proof to justify your opinions is wrong'. This makes it seem like atheists, who in my experience use scientific proof to justify their arguments, are wrong, while religious people, many of which rely of 'faith over proof' or hazy, undefined ideas such as 'God/Gods having a plan for humanity which is incomprehensible to us' are completely correct.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this whole episode felt like a TakeThat to atheists and science. The moral basically turned out to be 'ScienceIsWrong, and trying to find proof to justify your opinions is wrong'. This makes it seem like atheists, who in my experience use scientific proof to justify their arguments, are wrong, while religious people, many of which rely of on 'faith over proof' or hazy, undefined ideas such as 'God/Gods having a plan for humanity which is incomprehensible to us' are completely correct.
30th Jun '17 4:30:06 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this whole episode felt like a TakeThat to atheists and science. The moral basically turned out to be 'ScienceIsWrong, and trying to find proof to justify your opinions is wrong'. This makes it seem like atheists, who in my experience use scientific proof to justify their arguments, are wrong, while religious people, many of which rely of 'faith over proof' or hazy, undefined ideas such as 'God/Gods having a plan for humanity which is incomprehensible to us' are completely correct.
30th Jun '17 4:21:15 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the scale and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously the intelligence levels of individual members of a species will vary, but not that wildly.
30th Jun '17 4:15:12 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest' dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lower intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the [[{{Pun}} scale]] and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously individuals of a species have varying levels of intelligence, but they would not vary that wildly.
30th Jun '17 4:13:03 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel {{Jerkasses}}, and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel {{Jerkasses}}, [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.
30th Jun '17 4:11:06 PM WildKatGirl
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30th Jun '17 4:10:26 PM WildKatGirl
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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the [[{{Pun}} scale]] and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously individuals of a species have varying levels of intelligence, but they would not vary that wildly.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: Another, more minor, note, in that the show really needs to decide how to portray its dragons. Spike and the 'Dragon Quest'dragons Quest' dragons are shown to have a similar level of intelligence to ponies, and act on a quite 'human' level. However, the 'Dragonshy' dragon seemed to have a much lover lower intelligence level, as it rarely spoke, and when it did, only used short, simple sentences. The dragon in 'Owl's Well That Ends Well' is even further down the [[{{Pun}} scale]] and does not speak at all, acting much more like the creatures of the Everfree Forest than the ponies. Obviously individuals of a species have varying levels of intelligence, but they would not vary that wildly.
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