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This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
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This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' encountered HMS \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \\\"Great Chase,\\\" which is why I replaced his revision with a statement pointing this out. I\\\'m a bit slow to trust Wikpedia on this (this bit is unsourced), but it says that 11 British ships of the line were involved in the War of 1812 overall.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, the manpower, nor the government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It wouldn\\\'t have made sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S., no more than it would have for them to recall all their ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, the manpower, nor the government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It wouldn\\\'t have made sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S., no more than it would have for them to recall all their ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
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This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
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This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' encountered HMS \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \\\"Great Chase,\\\" which is why I replaced his revision with a statement pointing this out. I\\\'m a bit slow to trust Wikpedia on this (this bit is unsourced), but it says that 11 British ships of the line were involved in the War of 1812 overall.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, manpower, or government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It wouldn\\\'t have made sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have for them to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, manpower, or government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It wouldn\\\'t have made sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have for them to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
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This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
to:
This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' encountered HMS \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \\\"Great Chase,\\\" which is why I replaced his revision with a statement pointing this out. I\\\'m a bit slow to trust Wikpedia on this (this bit is unsourced), but it says that 11 British ships of the line were involved in the War of 1812 overall.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, manpower, or government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It would have made no sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would them to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers--which he didn\\\'t, because in the 1790\\\'s America had neither the infrastructure, manpower, or government support to maintain sufficient numbers of ships of the line.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. It would have made no sense for the Royal Navy to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would them to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them. Nevertheless, their added presence didn\\\'t exactly result in a crushing defeat for the Americans.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Changed line(s) 9 from:
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This wrongly leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \'\'no\'\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \'\'Constitution\'\' encountered HMS \'\'Africa\'\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \
to:
This leads the reader to believe that the Royal Navy had \\\'\\\'no\\\'\\\' Ships of the Line involved in the War of 1812 whatsoever. In actual fact, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' encountered HMS \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' (a 64-gun ship of the line) during the \\\"Great Chase,\\\" which is why I replaced his revision with a statement pointing this out. I\\\'m a bit slow to trust Wikpedia on this (this bit is unsourced), but it says that 11 British ships of the line were involved in the War of 1812 overall.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. The Royal Navy \\\'\\\'couldn\\\'t\\\'\\\' afford to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have made sense for the Royal Navy to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
Also, I think AFP\\\'s sting-in-the-tail overlooks another important fact: \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' was designed to overmatch any ship that was a frigate or lighter, while still having the speed and agility to escape from heavier ships. (And the Great Chase proves that: in spite of \\\'\\\'Africa\\\'\\\' having a whole squadron of lighter supporting ships, \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' escaped capture.) \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' and her sisters were built for \\\'\\\'escaping\\\'\\\' from ships of the line, not \\\'\\\'fighting\\\'\\\' them. If Humphreys intended \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\', he would have designed them as two or three-deckers.
It\\\'s also important to keep in mind that the Royal Navy was much as the United States Navy is today--they had hundreds of ships and bases \\\'\\\'everywhere\\\'\\\', and the naval aspect of the War of 1812 reached quite far. USS \\\'\\\'United States\\\'\\\' fought HMS \\\'\\\'Macedonian\\\'\\\' off the Portuguese islands of Madeira, \\\'\\\'Java\\\'\\\' intercepted \\\'\\\'Constitution\\\'\\\' outside of Brazilian territorial waters, the sloops of war \\\'\\\'Wasp\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Reindeer\\\'\\\' duked it out in the English channel. The Royal Navy \\\'\\\'couldn\\\'t\\\'\\\' afford to send their entire fleet at the continental U.S. no more than it would have made sense for the Royal Navy to recall all its ships to fight in a single theater during WorldWarTwo.
Even so, they \\\'\\\'did\\\'\\\' send more ships and soldiers to North America after Napoleon\\\'s defeat--at least 15,000 soldiers alone were sent to Canada as reinforcements, and plenty of ships would have come with them.
So--hopefully this\\\'ll clarify any issues before they come up in editing.
