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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \
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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \\\"standards\\\" this supposed trope has anything with a warrior female in a fantasy world would apply, be she competent or not, good or bad. Or just a female in it, really. Most {{Egregious}} case is listing Panty and Stocking of all thing as a feminist fantasy (where the creators stated they attempted to do a \\\"mature anime\\\" a la mature cartoons from the West like DrawnTogether, with all the swearing and raunchy stuff). I\\\'m actually surprised I haven\\\'t seen KillLaKill being mentioned because it has a predominantly female cast that fights pretty well (on top of technically having the aforementioned \\\"requirements\\\" to be a feminist fantasy), both evil guys and good guys and techinically speaking fills the quota in the main page (maybe because of the {{Stripperific}}, which brings an [[AllWomenArePrudes idea]]).
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \
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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \\\"standards\\\" this supposed trope has anything with a warrior female in a fantasy world would apply, be she competent or not, good or bad. Or just a female in it, really. Most {{Egregious}} case is listing Panty and Stocking of all thing as a feminist fantasy (where the creators stated they attempted to do a \\\"mature anime\\\" a la mature cartoons from the West like DrawnTogether, with all the swearing and raunchy stuff). I\\\'m actually surprised I haven\\\'t seen KillLaKill being mentioned because it has a predominantly female cast that fights pretty well (on top of technically having the aforementioned \\\"requirements\\\" to be a feminist fantasy), both evil guys and good guys and techinically speaking fills the quota in the main page (maybe because of the {{Striperrific}}, which brings an [[AllWomenArePrudes idea]]).
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \
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I agree with Vasha and Sikon. Judging by the \\\"standards\\\" this supposed trope has anything with a warrior female in a fantasy world would apply, be she competent or not, good or bad. Or just a female in it, really. Most {{Egregious}} case is listing Panty and Stocking of all thing as a feminist fantasy (where the creators stated they attempted to do a \\\"mature anime\\\" a la mature cartoons from the West like DrawnTogether, with all the swearing and raunchy stuff). I\\\'m actually surprised I haven\\\'t seen KillLaKill being mentioned because it has a predominantly female cast that fights pretty well (on top of technically having the aforementioned \\\"requirements\\\" to be a feminist fantasy), both evil guys and good guys and techinically speaking fills the quota in the main page (maybe because of the {{Striperrific}}, which brings an [[AllWomenArePrude idea]]).
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
So in other words: if, for example, Kill la Kill isn\\\'t considered a feminist fantasy because of fanservice; then other works shouldn\\\'t be considered feminist just because they happen to have the steretype of \\\"strong\\\" female character, or even just well-written female characters because hey, that might not be the intention of the writer (case in point: FFXIII; yes, it has females pretty much driving the story through the whole trilogy, but the third game has the much dreaded fanservice with Lightning changing to a lot of skimpy outfits, not to mention that the pandering to a character of a game so divisive like XIII from the creator\\\'s part makes one think that in the end she is his idea of a perfect woman/waifu).
[[spoiler: feminism shouldn\\\'t be shoehorned into everything, by the way.]]
