Discussion History Characters / FairyTail

** \\\"He has some of the most powerful magic in the franchise\\\" Uh, yeah, no he doesn\\\'t. When he can [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI take control of all the magic in the world]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII can summon a planet out of nowhere]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII seize control of all of time and space]] instead of hastening the end of a universe that\\\'s already falling apart thanks to Etro ex Machina, by hastening the death of a goddess who is already dying thanks to that same Etro ex Machina, then we\\\'ll talk about how he\\\'s got some of the most powerful magic in the franchise.
** \\\"He can use a previously unknown summon method to merge with Bahamut\\\". Considering Yu Yevon pulled that particular thing off four-ish games prior, with summons far more powerful than Bahamut, I\\\'m going to have to call shenanigans on this being an example. I\\\'m pretty Shuyin did that as well after him.
** \\\"His plan ultimately succeeds\\\", except that no, it really doesn\\\'t. Yeul keeps him around, WhoWantsToLiveForever sort of thing and ultimately proves that his actions were tangential to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt anyway. Then a new BigBad steps in and renders his whole plan pointless.
** Since when does being redeemed make someone a VillainSue exactly? Isn\\\'t that like, the exact opposite of a VillainSue? Besides which, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Kuja would like a word with you]].

** \\\"He has some of the most powerful magic in the franchise\\\" Uh, yeah, no he doesn\\\'t. When he can [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI take control of all the magic in the world]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII can summon a planet out of nowhere]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII seize control of all of time and space]] instead of hastening the end of a universe that\\\'s already falling apart thanks to Etro ex Machina, by hastening the death of a goddess who is already dying thanks to that same Etro ex Machina, then we\\\'ll talk about how he\\\'s got some of the most powerful magic in the franchise.
** \\\"He can use a previously unknown summon method to merge with Bahamut\\\". Considering Yu Yevon pulled that particular thing off four-ish games prior, with summons far more powerful than Bahamut, I\\\'m going to have to call shenanigans on this being an example. I\\\'m pretty Shuyin did that as well after him.
** \\\"His plan ultimately succeeds\\\", except that no, it really doesn\\\'t. Yeul keeps him around, WhoWantsToLiveForever sort of thing. Then a new BigBad steps in and renders his whole plan pointless.
** Since when does being redeemed make someone a VillainSue exactly? Isn\\\'t that like, the exact opposite of a VillainSue? Besides which, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Kuja would like a word with you]].

** \\\"He has some of the most powerful magic in the franchise\\\" Uh, yeah, no he doesn\\\'t. When he can [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI take control of all the magic in the world]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII can summon a planet out of nowhere]] or [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII seize control of all of time and space]] instead of hastening the end of a universe that\\\'s already falling apart thanks to Etro ex Machina, by hastening the death of a goddess who is already dying thanks to that same Etro ex Machina, then we\\\'ll talk about how he\\\'s got some of the most powerful magic in the franchise.
** \\\"He can use a previously unknown summon method to merge with Bahamut\\\". Considering Yu Yevon pulled that particular thing off four-ish games prior, with summons far more powerful than Bahamut, I\\\'m going to have to call shenanigans on this being an example. I\\\'m pretty Shuyin did that as well after him.
** \\\"His plan ultimately succeeds\\\", except that no, it really doesn\\\'t. Yeul keeps him around, WhoWantsToLiveForever sort of thing. Then a new BigBad steps in and renders his whole plan pointless.
** Since when does being redeemed make someone a VillainSue exactly? Isn\\\'t that like, the exact opposite of a VillainSue?

What\\\'s this? A visitor? What a rarity! Anyway, thanks very much for your assistance (and I know what an Etherious is, though I believe the official translation by Kodansha is \\\"Aetherious\\\").

So, you can go ahead and split the FK, MC, and dragons off into their own pages. As for the rest, the original idea I had was to put Zeref, Acnologia, and the Eclipse characters on a \\\"Spoilers\\\" page. But then I figured Zeref and Acnologia were far too prominent by now. After reading your proposal, here\\\'s what I think we should do:

* We make a page called \\\"Zeref and Demons\\\", and give that page three sections: One for Zeref himself, one for Tartaros, and one for Zeref\\\'s other demons (Lullaby, Deliora, and Doriath).
* We make another page called \\\"Eclipse\\\", and use that for the characters who used the Eclipse Gate: Future Lucy, Future Rogue, and the seven dragons (we add them to the \\\"Dragons\\\" page, but link each of them to this one). Naturally, this will be a spoiler-heavy page.

Once you make the pages, I\\\'ll make new sandboxes whenever I can and do my best to spruce them up. You\\\'re free to make edits on them as well; I\\\'ll link them to the first post of this discussion. I\\\'m sure you\\\'ve read that I\\\'m not too fond of the way the pictures are laid out, how the examples and headers are written, how spoiler tags make holes in certain sentences, and especially those infoboxes. It really has been overwhelming trying to write and rewrite these things all by myself, so you have no idea how much I appreciate the help.

I also tried my hand at making new, albeit smaller pictures. If you\\\'ve seen my sandboxes, many of them have 175x200 pictures with black borders 2 pixels thick (for characters with pre- and post-timeskip appearances, I merged them into one picture file). This was mainly because there are a lot of characters who have very little info on them, so giving them huge pictures on the right side of the screen (where they\\\'re supposed to be) would probably shove the pictures beneath them down and out of place. But I worry if I\\\'ve made them too small.

On another note, you may have noticed that I\\\'ve put all the anime-only characterizations of Oracion Seis in the \\\"Anime Only\\\" characters sandbox. This is because I feel they\\\'re different enough to get their own pages, and they seem relatively separate from their post-timeskip manga depictions, despite the anime technically being canon. So I say we keep those things to that page.

And finally...I say we just forgo spoiler tags altogether. Put a warning in every page\\\'s main header.

Again, thank you so much for the help. Let\\\'s go ahead and make this something people won\\\'t regret reading.

What\\\'s this? A visitor? What a rarity! Anyway, thanks very much for your assistance (and I know what an Etherious is, though I believe the official translation by Kodansha is \\\"Aetherious\\\").

So, you can go ahead and split the FK, MC, and dragons off into their own pages. As for the rest, the original idea I had was to put Zeref, Acnologia, and the Eclipse characters on a \\\"Spoilers\\\" page. But then I figured Zeref and Acnologia were far too prominent by now. After reading your proposal, here\\\'s what I think we should do:

* We make a page called \\\"Zeref and Demons\\\", and give that page three sections: One for Zeref himself, one for Tartaros, and one for Zeref\\\'s other demons (Lullaby, Deliora, and Doriath).
* We make another page called \\\"Eclipse\\\", and use that for the characters who used the Eclipse Gate: Future Lucy, Future Rogue, and the seven dragons. Naturally, this will be a spoiler-heavy page.

Once you make the pages, I\\\'ll make new sandboxes whenever I can and do my best to spruce them up. You\\\'re free to make edits on them as well; I\\\'ll link them to the first post of this discussion. I\\\'m sure you\\\'ve read that I\\\'m not too fond of the way the pictures are laid out, how the examples and headers are written, how spoiler tags make holes in certain sentences, and especially those infoboxes. It really has been overwhelming trying to write and rewrite these things all by myself, so you have no idea how much I appreciate the help.

I also tried my hand at making new, albeit smaller pictures. If you\\\'ve seen my sandboxes, many of them have 175x200 pictures with black borders 2 pixels thick (for characters with pre- and post-timeskip appearances, I merged them into one picture file). This was mainly because there are a lot of characters who have very little info on them, so giving them huge pictures on the right side of the screen (where they\\\'re supposed to be) would probably shove the pictures beneath them down and out of place. But I worry if I\\\'ve made them too small.

On another note, you may have noticed that I\\\'ve put all the anime-only characterizations of Oracion Seis in the \\\"Anime Only\\\" characters sandbox. This is because I feel they\\\'re different enough to get their own pages, and they seem relatively separate from their post-timeskip manga depictions, despite the anime technically being canon. So I say we keep those things to that page.

And finally...I say we just forgo spoiler tags altogether. Put a warning in every page\\\'s main header.

Again, thank you so much for the help. Let\\\'s go ahead and make this something people won\\\'t regret reading.

What\\\'s this? A visitor? What a rarity! Anyway, thanks very much for your assistance (and I know what an Etherious is, though I believe the official translation by Kodansha is \\\"Aetherious\\\").

So, you can go ahead and split the FK, MC, and dragons off into their own pages. As for the rest, the original idea I had was to put all Zeref, Acnologia, and the Eclipse characters on a \\\"Spoilers\\\" page. But then I figured Zeref and Acnologia were far too prominent by now. After reading your proposal, here\\\'s what I think we should do:

* We make a page called \\\"Zeref and Demons\\\", and give that page three sections: One for Zeref himself, one for Tartaros, and one for Zeref\\\'s other demons (Lullaby, Deliora, and Doriath).
* We make another page called \\\"Eclipse\\\", and use that for the characters who used the Eclipse Gate: Future Lucy, Future Rogue, and the seven dragons. Naturally, this will be a spoiler-heavy page.

Once you make the pages, I\\\'ll make new sandboxes whenever I can and do my best to spruce them up. You\\\'re free to make edits on them as well; I\\\'ll link them to the first post of this discussion. I\\\'m sure you\\\'ve read that I\\\'m not too fond of the way the pictures are laid out, how the examples and headers are written, how spoiler tags make holes in certain sentences, and especially those infoboxes. It really has been overwhelming trying to write and rewrite these things all by myself, so you have no idea how much I appreciate the help.

I also tried my hand at making new, albeit smaller pictures. If you\\\'ve seen my sandboxes, many of them have 175x200 pictures with black borders 2 pixels thick (for characters with pre- and post-timeskip appearances, I merged them into one picture file). This was mainly because there are a lot of characters who have very little info on them, so giving them huge pictures on the right side of the screen (where they\\\'re supposed to be) would probably shove the pictures beneath them down and out of place. But I worry if I\\\'ve made them too small.

On another note, you may have noticed that I\\\'ve put all the anime-only characterizations of Oracion Seis in the \\\"Anime Only\\\" characters sandbox. This is because I feel they\\\'re different enough to get their own pages, and they seem relatively separate from their post-timeskip manga depictions, despite the anime technically being canon. So I say we keep those things to that page.

And finally...I say we just forgo spoiler tags altogether. Put a warning in every page\\\'s main header.

Again, thank you so much for the help. Let\\\'s go ahead and make this something people won\\\'t regret reading.