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*** Shao Kahn only obeys out of pure pragmatism- namely, the Elder Gods will \'\'destroy\'\' him if he tries to actually break the rules. In \'\'VideoGame/MortalKombat9\'\', he actually does this anyway once he\'s given the impression that the Elder\'s won\'t act- they do, but their attack seems impotent, and he laughs it off and assumes that they were weaker than he thought all along. Onaga, the previous ruler of Outworld, was full-on Lawful Evil as the realm was orderly under his (tyrannical) rule, but Kahn is ChaoticEvil, ruling Outworld as a BloodKnight and TheCaligula, pitting his minions against each other to remain in power despite the result being [[FascistButInefficient inefficiency]], and generally not giving a crap about laws beyond \
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*** Shao Kahn only obeys out of pure pragmatism- namely, the Elder Gods will \\\'\\\'destroy\\\'\\\' him if he tries to actually break the rules. In \\\'\\\'VideoGame/MortalKombat9\\\'\\\', he actually does this anyway once he\\\'s given the impression that the Elder\\\'s won\\\'t act- they do, but their attack seems impotent, and he laughs it off and assumes that they were weaker than he thought all along. Onaga, the previous ruler of Outworld, was full-on Lawful Evil as the realm was orderly under his (tyrannical) rule, but Kahn is ChaoticEvil, ruling Outworld as a BloodKnight and TheCaligula, pitting his minions against each other to remain in power despite the result being [[FascistButInefficient inefficiency]], and generally not giving a crap about laws beyond \\\"what Shao Kahn feels like\\\".
** Hotaru. He\\\'s [[KnightTemplar cynically militant]] in that believes order, rules, law, and control is the \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' way to make sure society is peaceful and functional, and has no regard for the battle between good and evil, just as long as he suppresses chaos and stops people breaking the rules. He comes from Seido, or Orderrealm, as part of the Sedian guard that very much share his philosophy that freedom leads to anarchy, and anarchy leads to suffering. He doesn\\\'t care how order is carried out, just that it is. For example, he opposes the long running evil of Shao Kahn, because Shao Kahn achieves his plans of total realm merging through invasions and wars that Hotaru finds chaotic. However he pledges allegiance to the still diabolical evil Dragon King, Onaga, who threatens to merge all the realms into one under his wrath using a different method, combining the special kamidogu so the realms merge automatically, because he believes that this is orderly and disciplined, seemingly ignoring the destruction and evil that would come with it. Could be seen as LawfulStupid in that in his militant haste to achieve order whenever he can, rather than say adhering to a certain ethical code in particular, he seems completely oblivious that he\\\'s unmaking reality and bringing about the end of the realms as he knows it. That he religiously adheres to an evil ruler, and commits evil under obedience because he\\\'s being \\\'lawful\\\', while seemingly showing no compassion, means LawfulNeutral would not be an appropriate place to put him, perhaps focusing on his own ideology at the selfish expense of someone suffering. and is more than willing to kill if he thinks someone is on the side of chaos. He sided with the BigBad of \\\'\\\'Deception\\\'\\\', his debut appearance, because he believed it would bring order to the realms, sided with the forces of evil in \\\'\\\'Armageddon\\\'\\\', and was the first to kill in the Battle of Armageddon. Fittingly, the character he killed was ChaoticGood.
*** Its not to do with their different methods; Hotaru sides with Onaga because Onaga is a more Lawful tyrant and Outworld is less chaotic under his rule. Its not entirely clear if Hotaru is even aware that Onaga is trying to conquer all the realms (that is, anytime soon) and is more interested in bringing Order to Outworld by putting a more Orderly ruler back on the throne.
The first example has a long paragraph under it explaining it\\\'s not an example. (See: RepairDontRespond, ConversationOnTheMainPage.) The second one is a bit confusing, but I disagree with the case that it\\\'s not some kind of LawfulNeutral, and the added paragraph (with the same faults as the last one) seems to provide evidence for that too. At the very least the second example would need a rewrite, but it seems to me it doesn\\\'t belong there at all.
** Hotaru. He\\\'s [[KnightTemplar cynically militant]] in that believes order, rules, law, and control is the \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' way to make sure society is peaceful and functional, and has no regard for the battle between good and evil, just as long as he suppresses chaos and stops people breaking the rules. He comes from Seido, or Orderrealm, as part of the Sedian guard that very much share his philosophy that freedom leads to anarchy, and anarchy leads to suffering. He doesn\\\'t care how order is carried out, just that it is. For example, he opposes the long running evil of Shao Kahn, because Shao Kahn achieves his plans of total realm merging through invasions and wars that Hotaru finds chaotic. However he pledges allegiance to the still diabolical evil Dragon King, Onaga, who threatens to merge all the realms into one under his wrath using a different method, combining the special kamidogu so the realms merge automatically, because he believes that this is orderly and disciplined, seemingly ignoring the destruction and evil that would come with it. Could be seen as LawfulStupid in that in his militant haste to achieve order whenever he can, rather than say adhering to a certain ethical code in particular, he seems completely oblivious that he\\\'s unmaking reality and bringing about the end of the realms as he knows it. That he religiously adheres to an evil ruler, and commits evil under obedience because he\\\'s being \\\'lawful\\\', while seemingly showing no compassion, means LawfulNeutral would not be an appropriate place to put him, perhaps focusing on his own ideology at the selfish expense of someone suffering. and is more than willing to kill if he thinks someone is on the side of chaos. He sided with the BigBad of \\\'\\\'Deception\\\'\\\', his debut appearance, because he believed it would bring order to the realms, sided with the forces of evil in \\\'\\\'Armageddon\\\'\\\', and was the first to kill in the Battle of Armageddon. Fittingly, the character he killed was ChaoticGood.
*** Its not to do with their different methods; Hotaru sides with Onaga because Onaga is a more Lawful tyrant and Outworld is less chaotic under his rule. Its not entirely clear if Hotaru is even aware that Onaga is trying to conquer all the realms (that is, anytime soon) and is more interested in bringing Order to Outworld by putting a more Orderly ruler back on the throne.
The first example has a long paragraph under it explaining it\\\'s not an example. (See: RepairDontRespond, ConversationOnTheMainPage.) The second one is a bit confusing, but I disagree with the case that it\\\'s not some kind of LawfulNeutral, and the added paragraph (with the same faults as the last one) seems to provide evidence for that too. At the very least the second example would need a rewrite, but it seems to me it doesn\\\'t belong there at all.
