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20th Apr '18 2:27:22 PM Ninamarie124
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14th Apr '18 7:40:33 AM Xythos
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* The two main villains of ''Fanfic/{{Kintsukuroi}}'' fall into this alignment. Colonel Sharon Hillridge and Dr. Elias Dreschner lead the massacre of hundreds of mutants for two well-defined goals: Hillridge aims at the creation of supersoldiers for the supremacy of her country while Drescher searches for a cure for cancer.
15th Mar '18 2:38:12 AM LondonKdS
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** Time Lords too, post-"Trial of a Time Lord". They started off Neutral enough (probably Lawful Neutral or True Neutral, in the not-giving-a-shit sense) but get darker as ''Who'' progresses. By the end of the Tenth Doctor's time, they're full-blown Lawful Evil. One of the Founders of Time Lord Society and the First [[PresidentEvil President]] Rassilon, is implied to have been this despite being portrayed [[VillainWithGoodPublicity as a great hero]] [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade in the official version of history]]. It could be argued the Time Lords finally tipping into Lawful Evil could be due to his return during the Time War. However, it's not entirely clear if Rassilon was EvilAllAlong or fell to HeWhoFightsMonsters during the Time War. As the leader of Time Lord society during that era, it's hard to imagine anyone having spent more time staring into the abyss.
** The Valeyard, an evil future version of the Doctor, seems to have started out like this (trying to railroad the Doctor to the gallows in "The Trial of a Time Lord," he hopes to gain the Doctor's remaining regenerations, ''but'' seems to believe everything he's saying about the Doctor is true.) However Big Finish Unbound shows that if he had won he would have become ChaoticEvil.

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** Time Lords too, post-"Trial of a Time Lord". They started off Neutral enough (probably Lawful Neutral or True Neutral, in the not-giving-a-shit sense) but get darker as ''Who'' progresses. By the end of the Tenth Doctor's time, they're full-blown Lawful Evil. One of the Founders of Time Lord Society and the First [[PresidentEvil President]] Rassilon, is implied to have been this despite being portrayed [[VillainWithGoodPublicity as a great hero]] [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade in the official version of history]]. It could be argued the Time Lords finally tipping into Lawful Evil could be due to his return during the Time War. However, it's not entirely clear if Rassilon was EvilAllAlong or fell to HeWhoFightsMonsters during the Time War.War (in TV continuity, that is, many Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse works tend '''much''' more heavily to the EvilAllAlong interpretation). As the leader of Time Lord society during that era, it's hard to imagine anyone having spent more time staring into the abyss.
** The Valeyard, either an evil future version of the Doctor, Doctor or an EnemyWithout of the Doctor created in an unknown future incident, seems to have started out like this (trying to railroad the Doctor to the gallows in "The Trial of a Time Lord," he hopes to gain the Doctor's remaining regenerations, ''but'' seems to believe everything he's saying about the Doctor is true.) However Big Finish Unbound shows that if he had won he would have become ChaoticEvil.
10th Mar '18 8:47:14 PM PhantomRider
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** Time Lords too, post-"Trial of a Time Lord". They started off Neutral enough (probably Lawful Neutral or True Neutral, in the not-giving-a-shit sense) but get darker as ''Who'' progresses. By the end of the Tenth Doctor's time, they're full-blown Lawful Evil. One of the Founders of Time Lord Society and the First [[PresidentEvil President]] Rassilon, is implied to have been this despite being portrayed [[VillainWithGoodPublicity as a great hero]] [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade in the official version of history]]. It could be argued the Time Lords finally tipping into Lawful Evil could be due to his return during the Time War.
%%** The Valeyard, an evil future version of the Doctor, seems to have started out like this. However Big Finish Unbound shows that if he had won he would have become ChaoticEvil.

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** Time Lords too, post-"Trial of a Time Lord". They started off Neutral enough (probably Lawful Neutral or True Neutral, in the not-giving-a-shit sense) but get darker as ''Who'' progresses. By the end of the Tenth Doctor's time, they're full-blown Lawful Evil. One of the Founders of Time Lord Society and the First [[PresidentEvil President]] Rassilon, is implied to have been this despite being portrayed [[VillainWithGoodPublicity as a great hero]] [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade in the official version of history]]. It could be argued the Time Lords finally tipping into Lawful Evil could be due to his return during the Time War.
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War. However, it's not entirely clear if Rassilon was EvilAllAlong or fell to HeWhoFightsMonsters during the Time War. As the leader of Time Lord society during that era, it's hard to imagine anyone having spent more time staring into the abyss.
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The Valeyard, an evil future version of the Doctor, seems to have started out like this. this (trying to railroad the Doctor to the gallows in "The Trial of a Time Lord," he hopes to gain the Doctor's remaining regenerations, ''but'' seems to believe everything he's saying about the Doctor is true.) However Big Finish Unbound shows that if he had won he would have become ChaoticEvil.



** Then there's ''Series/PowerRangersLightSpeedRescue'', whose villains waited patiently for their leader, and raised her baby.

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** Then there's ''Series/PowerRangersLightSpeedRescue'', whose villains waited patiently for their leader, and raised her baby. It turns out that their leader wasn't nearly as loyal to ''them,'' though, and you end up pitying even the most evil of them, and cheering the HeelFaceTurn of the character who was first introduced as the DragonInChief!
**''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'' has a similar setup. CoDragons Toxica and Jindrax are fighting the Rangers and trying to destroy humans, but their goal is having their own species thrive, and since Orgs rise from pollution, they feel that their very existence proves HumansAreTheRealMonsters and don't deserve the planet anyway. Every Org has UndyingLoyalty to any higher-ranked Org, and all serve the dream of an Org world. Instead of being CardCarryingVillains like most PR baddies, they are simply following a definition of "good" that is harmful to humans. (As with Lightspeed, though, the two BigBad figures were purely motivated by selfish gain or revenge, treated their followers like less than dirt, and eventually, Toxica and Jindrax help the Rangers so they can be free, and say ScrewThisImOuttaHere before the final act.)
7th Mar '18 3:19:32 AM CountDorku
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%%** The Founders' Dominion, particularly the female changeling and the Weyouns, itself can be best described as Lawful Evil, although the backstory suggests they became evil due to having been oppressed by cultures' biases against them. Makes them more 3-dimensional than most StarTrek villains.

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%%** ** The Founders' Dominion, particularly ruled by the female changeling Founders, is a theocratic oligarchy dedicated to two things above all: order and control. If the Founders don't rule it, they'll conquer it. If it's too strong to be easily conquered, they'll use their abilities to cause it to dissolve into chaos, ''then'' conquer it. Their code of law for use among themselves is in many ways quite strict: at one point Odo is forced to reach their homeworld and have his shapeshifting stripped away because their law states that [[ApeShallNeverKillApe changelings shall never kill each other]], even though Odo has no way of actually knowing their law.
** This is the Ferengi ideal. Ferengi idolise personal gain and wealth, to the point where failing to turn a profit can earn you a stay in Hell, but are supposed to abide strongly by the will of the Nagus, the admittedly loose dictates of the Rules of Acquisition,
and the Weyouns, itself can be best described as Lawful Evil, although the backstory suggests terms of any contract they became evil due to having been oppressed by cultures' biases against them. Makes them more 3-dimensional than sign with another Ferengi. Among Ferengi, Brunt is the most StarTrek villains.malevolent: he repeatedly goes out of his way to use the power and authority granted by his rank to make Quark's life miserable.
3rd Mar '18 7:49:36 PM MinisterOfSinister
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%%** Saren Arterius ("Is submission not preferable to extinction?").



* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'', your EvilChancellor Gnarl advises you to be this, stating that being AxCrazy and slaughtering everyone in your way, while it can be boatloads of fun, is not good for long-term world domination since you will need servants for your empire. He also sees giving peasants some help as PragmaticVillainy, saying that "gratitude comes with it's own rewards". Still, the decision is all up to you as a player and he does delight in acts of particularly vicious evil, though canonically it's suggested that the Overlord was a NobleDemon who at the least saved the elves and slew the {{Fallen Hero}}es ruining the lands. In the sequel this is known as Domination, with the Overlad merely choosing to brainwash any civilians he comes across to become slaves that toil for him. Alternately you can be ChaoticEvil and choose Destruction instead, killing them all.
%%* ''Franchise/StreetFighter'': M. Bison, who practically lives by his main goal to, you guessed it, TakeOverTheWorld.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'', your ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'':
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EvilChancellor Gnarl advises you to be this, stating that being AxCrazy and slaughtering everyone in your way, while it can be boatloads of fun, is not good for long-term world domination since you will need servants for your empire. He also sees giving peasants some help as PragmaticVillainy, saying that "gratitude comes with it's its own rewards". Still, the decision is all up to you as a player and he does delight in acts of particularly vicious evil, though canonically it's suggested that the Overlord was a NobleDemon who at the least saved the elves and slew the {{Fallen Hero}}es ruining the lands.
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In the sequel this sequel, the Lawful Evil path is known as Domination, with the Overlad merely choosing to brainwash any civilians he comes across to become slaves that toil for him. Alternately you can be him as opposed to the ChaoticEvil and choose Destruction instead, path of Destruction, which involves just straight-up killing them all.
%%* ** The [[EvilMinions Minions]] in general are a subservient form of this. They are a HenchmenRace who take great pride in killing and destroying things on command, but the entire extent of their society and culture is built around serving whoever holds the title of Overlord in whatever capacity they require. Want to [[BadBoss sacrifice them in a pit to restore your health or mana]]? They'll agree to it. Want to [[HumanResources use their essence to forge powerful magic items]]? They'll throw themselves into the melting pot without hesitation. At no point does it ever occur to them to question or disagree with actions likely or guaranteed to get them killed; what the Overlord wants, the Overlord gets. [[BlueAndOrangeMorality It's that simple.]] According to Gnarl, without an Overlord, their lives completely lack direction or meaning. [[spoiler:This alignment becomes a plot point in the first game when your predecessor returns and usurps the title of Overlord from you. Gnarl is forced along with several of his compatriots to accede to his authority because his entire existence is to be loyal to the title, not whoever happens to be wearing it, but he hints he likes you better and encourages you to take back the title.]]
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''Franchise/StreetFighter'': M. Bison, who practically lives by his main goal to, you guessed it, TakeOverTheWorld. He operates through the vast NebulousEvilOrganization Shadoo, and likes to use BetterLivingThroughEvil as a recruiting tactic.
26th Feb '18 11:09:18 AM WillKeaton
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** Bane in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Despite posing he's ChaoticEvil, he is actually an extremist member of the League of Shadows and wishes to continue their quest to root out crime and corruption by destroying cities, though he takes it to a suicidal extreme [[spoiler: as does Talia, Ra's daughter]].

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** Bane in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Despite posing he's appearing ChaoticEvil, he is actually an extremist member of the League of Shadows and wishes to continue their quest to root out crime and corruption by destroying cities, though he takes it to a suicidal extreme [[spoiler: as does Talia, Ra's daughter]].
19th Jan '18 1:37:16 AM TheNerevarine
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** The Dark Brotherhood is a group of amoral assassins, many of them are sadistic psychos that revel in murder and they will target anyone so long as the Night Mother commands it. They also follow five tenets: do not dishonor the Night Mother, do not betray the Brother, do not kill or steal from another member. To do so is to invoke the wrath of Sithis.
17th Jan '18 1:18:45 AM CountDorku
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** The Chaos Marines known as the Word Bearers are more organized than the other Chaos space marines by devoting themselves to all four Chaos powers at once. They are chaos and evil that is restrained by religious devotion and military discipline. They are all willing to die for the greater glory of Chaos.

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** The Chaos Marines known as the Word Bearers are more organized than the other Chaos space marines by devoting themselves to all four Chaos powers at once. They are chaos and evil that is restrained by religious devotion and military discipline. They are all willing to die for the greater glory of Chaos.Chaos, and are the only Traitor Legion still acting as a mostly-unified force, although they still have internal frictions.


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** The Iron Warriors mostly default to this. While they're Chaos Marines, the actual Chaos thing isn't relevant to them - they fight the Imperium out of a deep-seated bitterness and resentment, not any particular loyalty to the Dark Gods (indeed, there's a subtle disdain for the Dark Gods within much of the Legion, because as Chaotic influences the favours of the Gods are too unreliable). With a coldly methodical worldview, a blunt disregard for anything other than results, a callous indifference to the lives of their slaves, cultists, allies and even fellow Iron Warriors, a strict hierarchy within warbands and a tendency to turn any Daemon World they claim into a coldly authoritarian nightmare of rusted metal, IndustrializedEvil and slaves who are little more than cogs in the hellish machinery, the Iron Warriors are as Lawful as any Chaos Legion can be. Indeed, if you were to strip away the Imperium's actual goals and left only its day-to-day functioning, [[NotSoDifferent what you'd have would be a lot like the Iron Warriors.]]


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* Within the ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', the most notable Lawful Evil faction is probably the Seers of the Throne from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAwakening'', who favour the Evil over Lawful path. Any given Seer is essentially out for himself, seeking personal gain at the expense of others in ostensible service to the Exarchs, and their main sub-factions are based on different ways to make the world more hierarchical, cruel and authoritarian, to keep the Sleepers quiet and themselves in power: some set up tyrannical or legalistic governments, while others use perpetual surveillance, religiously motivated bigotry and exclusion, corporate-backed corruption or perpetual conflict to keep people enslaved. Anyone in the NWOD who supports a worldview where a given social order trumps compassion and humanity is ultimately helping the Seers in their quest to keep humanity docile and unlikely to find enlightenment, be it the pastor who views gay people as not worthy of equitable treatment, the millionaire who cares more about keeping his taxes down than the social good his tax payments can do, the general who tacitly encourages war crimes in order to demoralise the enemy, the techbro working on a new algorithm to gather data his company can sell or the nationalist who views immigration as a threat to the purity of his nation. ''Mage: the Awakening'' is not a game that believes in "keeping politics out of it".
15th Jan '18 5:02:34 PM Puterboy1
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** The honor of a character respecting this trope in the original books by P. L. Travers feature Miss Andrew, who is the polar opposite of Mary Poppins who handles her children...with extreme tactics, hence her moniker the Holy Terror.
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