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So, Tropers/Matt620 and I have been arguing for a few days now about the possibility of hashing out a GoldenEnding example for this game. I\'m for adding one and Matt is against it (I think). We are especially at each others\' throats about \
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So, Tropers/Matt620 and I have been arguing for a few days now about the possibility of hashing out a GoldenEnding example for this game. I\\\'m for adding one and Matt is against it (I think). We are especially at each others\\\' throats about \\\"Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts\\\".
You can check [[http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Epilogue_(Inquisition) here]] for how the endings stack up to each other.
My reasons for including the trope:
* There are \\\'\\\'clear\\\'\\\' unambiguous \\\"good\\\" outcomes. While many of the outcomes are a MortonsFork, where you have to sacrifice one good outcome for a preferred one, some outcomes are just objectively better. For example:
* If (softened) Leliana is made Divine, the new Chantry and mage reforms wind up working and dissent is resolved peacefully. Mages enjoy unprecedented acceptance, and there\\\'s no indication of war. Cassandra, on the other hand, always leads to mage dissent no matter what, and Vivienne only enforces her reforms with blood.
** An alternate Golden outcome can be if the Templars were saved instead of the mages. However, in this case, the Templars have a pretty positive ending \\\'\\\'no matter what\\\'\\\'. As a whole, I could even call their ending better than the Mage ending, but taken on its own, there\\\'s really no \\\"Golden\\\" variation because the Templars have no possible negative outcome (from what we\\\'ve found so far).
* In \\\"Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts\\\", I argue that there are three major positive/negative factors: 1) which potential rulers live, die or live happily 2) whether or not elves receive more rights and 3) whether or not Orlais is at peace afterwards. My argument for Briala/Celene reconciliation being the \\\"Golden\\\" outcome is that this leads to the most positive outcome for those three factors. In every other factor, either two of the rivals are dead, one is plotting revenge, a war is on the horizon, or elves get no improvements. Celene/Briala reconciliation is the ONLY one where all three of those things happen.
* The Wardens are screwed no matter what. Either the ones that joined the Inquisition rebel against Weisshaupt or Wesshaupt erupts in a bloody civil war.
* The Inquisition endings are all positive no matter what.
Well, that\\\'s my reasoning. As I said, my argument is that there\\\'s a clear \\\"better\\\" outcome for some of these choices, with some being somewhat ambiguous or based in preference (for example, Matt620 has expressed a distaste for allowing Celene to get away with the Elven massacre). But, other than that, I think my argument has merit.
You can check [[http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Epilogue_(Inquisition) here]] for how the endings stack up to each other.
My reasons for including the trope:
* There are \\\'\\\'clear\\\'\\\' unambiguous \\\"good\\\" outcomes. While many of the outcomes are a MortonsFork, where you have to sacrifice one good outcome for a preferred one, some outcomes are just objectively better. For example:
* If (softened) Leliana is made Divine, the new Chantry and mage reforms wind up working and dissent is resolved peacefully. Mages enjoy unprecedented acceptance, and there\\\'s no indication of war. Cassandra, on the other hand, always leads to mage dissent no matter what, and Vivienne only enforces her reforms with blood.
** An alternate Golden outcome can be if the Templars were saved instead of the mages. However, in this case, the Templars have a pretty positive ending \\\'\\\'no matter what\\\'\\\'. As a whole, I could even call their ending better than the Mage ending, but taken on its own, there\\\'s really no \\\"Golden\\\" variation because the Templars have no possible negative outcome (from what we\\\'ve found so far).
* In \\\"Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts\\\", I argue that there are three major positive/negative factors: 1) which potential rulers live, die or live happily 2) whether or not elves receive more rights and 3) whether or not Orlais is at peace afterwards. My argument for Briala/Celene reconciliation being the \\\"Golden\\\" outcome is that this leads to the most positive outcome for those three factors. In every other factor, either two of the rivals are dead, one is plotting revenge, a war is on the horizon, or elves get no improvements. Celene/Briala reconciliation is the ONLY one where all three of those things happen.
* The Wardens are screwed no matter what. Either the ones that joined the Inquisition rebel against Weisshaupt or Wesshaupt erupts in a bloody civil war.
* The Inquisition endings are all positive no matter what.
Well, that\\\'s my reasoning. As I said, my argument is that there\\\'s a clear \\\"better\\\" outcome for some of these choices, with some being somewhat ambiguous or based in preference (for example, Matt620 has expressed a distaste for allowing Celene to get away with the Elven massacre). But, other than that, I think my argument has merit.
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Well, you can tell how much potion is being made from how many ingredients are disappearing, and Barty obviously needs all the ingredients he\'s swiping or else he wouldn\'t be swiping them in the first place. So unless Snape is going to conclude that someone on-campus has gone into Polyjuice wholesaling, he \'\'should\'\' be concluding someone is drinking it constantly.
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Well, you can tell how much potion is being made from what quantity of ingredients is being stolen, and Barty obviously needs all the ingredients he\\\'s swiping or else he wouldn\\\'t be swiping them in the first place. So unless Snape is going to conclude that someone on-campus has gone into Polyjuice wholesaling, he \\\'\\\'should\\\'\\\' be concluding someone is drinking it constantly.
