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(Edit: This discussion and \\\"Was it Rape\\\" have gotten completely mixed together. Just ignore the division.)
So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \\\"FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Committing sexual assault is an important rite of passage.\\\", and [=MrDeath=] removed both of them, say \\\"This is a rape trope. He kissed her. I mean, I know, but isn\\\'t this blowing things a bit out of proportion?\\\"
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
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(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
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Okay, currently the proposed inclusion is:
->ValuesDissonance: Tricking and grabbing someone to kiss them against their will is a respectable and brave rite of passage.
Are there any arguments against including that or rewrites to it?
So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \\\"FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Committing sexual assault is an important rite of passage.\\\", and [=MrDeath=] removed both of them, say \\\"This is a rape trope. He kissed her. I mean, I know, but isn\\\'t this blowing things a bit out of proportion?\\\"
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
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(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
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Okay, currently the proposed inclusion is:
->ValuesDissonance: Tricking and grabbing someone to kiss them against their will is a respectable and brave rite of passage.
Are there any arguments against including that or rewrites to it?
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(Edit: This discussion and \
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(Edit: This discussion and \\\"Was it Rape\\\" have gotten completely mixed together. Just ignore the division.)
So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \\\"FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Committing sexual assault is an important rite of passage.\\\", and [=MrDeath=] removed both of them, say \\\"This is a rape trope. He kissed her. I mean, I know, but isn\\\'t this blowing things a bit out of proportion?\\\"
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
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(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
____EDIT_____\\\\\\\\
Okay, currently the proposed inclusion is:
->ValuesDissonance: Tricking and grabbing someone to kiss them against their will is a respectable and brave rite of passage.
Are there any arguments against including that?
So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \\\"FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Committing sexual assault is an important rite of passage.\\\", and [=MrDeath=] removed both of them, say \\\"This is a rape trope. He kissed her. I mean, I know, but isn\\\'t this blowing things a bit out of proportion?\\\"
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\
(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
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Okay, currently the proposed inclusion is:
->ValuesDissonance: Tricking and grabbing someone to kiss them against their will is a respectable and brave rite of passage.
Are there any arguments against including that?
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(Edit: This discussion and \\\"Was it Rape\\\" have gotten completely mixed together. Just ignore the division.)
(Edit: This discussion and \\\"Was it Rape\\\" have gotten completely mixed together. Just ignore the division.)
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So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \
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So, I added NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization, and Woodwardiocom added \\\"FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Committing sexual assault is an important rite of passage.\\\", and [=MrDeath=] removed both of them, say \\\"This is a rape trope. He kissed her. I mean, I know, but isn\\\'t this blowing things a bit out of proportion?\\\"
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
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(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
I, personally, feel that rape is a serious enough thing that it would always deserve mentioning, particularly when it\\\'s used in such a GratuitousRape way. I know that I personally felt really disturbed and disgusted when I saw the rape scene, and I think that the carefree way that they put it in is both important to any discussion of the movie, and even more important to the position of this movie as part of a larger culture context.
Additionally, I think it would be really helpful to people to have at least one thing saying \\\"by the way, there\\\'s a rape scene in this movie\\\".\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\
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(By the way, since all three people currently involved agree that yes, this was a rape, could people commenting on this not try to challenge that? If you want me to explain why this was a rape, please start add a new topic asking me to, as opposed to derailing this conversation. Thanks.)
