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The Angels are difficult. Depowered Angels are clearly type 2. They\'re human, but can see demon faces and hear Angelic voices. Regular Angels are all clear-cut Type 3. I\'d be fine with moving the Archangels up to type 5, as Raphael blacks out the Eastern Seaboard when he manifests on Earth, and Lucifer\'s rise immediately sets off a chain of disaster events. Gabriel throws Sam and Dean into a pocket dimension, and Sam in a time loop. Their actual combat powers don\'t seem over Type 4 though, so it\'s a bit of a wash. As for the Seraphs, there are only two more-or-less confirmed examples, Zachariah and Castiel. Do either of them really show the kind of abilities that would make them type 4s, as in cause large-scale disasters by themselves? Zachariah may have trapped Dean in another pocket dimension, or he may have just used time travel. As for Castiel being wary of Lucifer and Michael, I\'m not quite sure how much of a threat they\'d be to him at that point. He blew up their brother simply by snapping his fingers. Granted that Michael and Lucifer are more powerful than the other two archangels, but we don\'t how large the power disparity between them is.
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The Angels are difficult. Depowered Angels are clearly type 2. They\\\'re human, but can see demon faces and hear Angelic voices. Regular Angels are all clear-cut Type 3. I\\\'d be fine with moving the Archangels up to type 5, as Raphael blacks out the Eastern Seaboard when he manifests on Earth, and Lucifer\\\'s rise immediately sets off a chain of disaster events. Gabriel throws Sam and Dean into a pocket dimension, and Sam in a time loop. Their actual combat powers don\\\'t seem over Type 4 though, so it\\\'s a bit of a wash. As for the Seraphs, there are only two more-or-less confirmed examples, Zachariah and Castiel. Do either of them really show the kind of abilities that would make them type 4s, as in cause large-scale disasters by themselves? Zachariah may have trapped Dean in another pocket dimension, or he may have just used time travel. As for Castiel being wary of Lucifer and Michael when he\\\'s in god mode, I\\\'m not quite sure how much of a threat they\\\'d be to him at that point. He blew up their brother simply by snapping his fingers. Granted that Michael and Lucifer are more powerful than the other two archangels, but we don\\\'t how large the power disparity between them is.
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First off, Jesse Turner is not necessarily less powerful than Lucifer. I checked the episode he appears in again, and it sort of contradicts itself. On the one hand Castiel says that Jesse grows stronger with Lucifer\'s presence. He also directly says that at full power, Jesse will destroy the entire Host of Heaven with a single word. That easily puts him in Type 5 territory. Can Lucifer do this himself? I don’t know. And if the power is derived from him, why does he need Jesse as a weapon in the first place? I also see a bit of a problem with treating a one-shot character who suffered ChuckCunninghamSyndrome (he didn\'t just put himself on a bus, he just completely vanished from existence, and nobody, not even Lucifer, ever mentions him again) as integral to the show\'s mythology.
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First off, Jesse Turner is not necessarily less powerful than Lucifer. I checked the episode he appears in again, and it sort of contradicts itself. On the one hand Castiel says that Jesse grows stronger with Lucifer\\\'s presence. He also directly says that at full power, Jesse will destroy the entire Host of Heaven with a single word. That easily puts him in Type 5 territory. Can Lucifer do this himself? I don\\\'t know. And if the power is derived from him, why does he need Jesse as a weapon in the first place? I also see a bit of a problem with treating a one-shot character who suffered ChuckCunninghamSyndrome (he didn\\\'t just put himself on a bus, he just completely vanished from existence, and nobody, not even Lucifer, ever mentions him again) as integral to the show\\\'s mythology.
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The Angels are difficult. Depowered Angels are clearly type 2. They\'re human, but can see demon faces and hear Angelic voices. I\'d be fine with moving the Archangels up to type 5, as Raphael blacks out the Eastern Seaboard when he manifests on Earth, and Lucifer\'s rise immediately sets off a chain of disaster events. Gabriel throws Sam and Dean into a pocket dimension, and Sam in a time loop. Their actual combat powers don\'t seem over Type 4 though, so it\'s a bit of a wash. As for the Seraphs, there are only two more-or-less confirmed examples, Zachariah and Castiel. Do either of them really show the kind of abilities that would make them type 4s, as in cause large-scale disasters by themselves? Zachariah may have trapped Dean in another pocket dimension, or he may have just used time travel. As for Castiel being wary of Lucifer and Michael, I\'m not quite sure how much of a threat they\'d be to him at that point. He blew up their brother simply by snapping his fingers. Granted that Michael and Lucifer are more powerful than the other two archangels, but we don\'t how large the power disparity between them is.
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The Angels are difficult. Depowered Angels are clearly type 2. They\\\'re human, but can see demon faces and hear Angelic voices. Regular Angels are all clear-cut Type 3. I\\\'d be fine with moving the Archangels up to type 5, as Raphael blacks out the Eastern Seaboard when he manifests on Earth, and Lucifer\\\'s rise immediately sets off a chain of disaster events. Gabriel throws Sam and Dean into a pocket dimension, and Sam in a time loop. Their actual combat powers don\\\'t seem over Type 4 though, so it\\\'s a bit of a wash. As for the Seraphs, there are only two more-or-less confirmed examples, Zachariah and Castiel. Do either of them really show the kind of abilities that would make them type 4s, as in cause large-scale disasters by themselves? Zachariah may have trapped Dean in another pocket dimension, or he may have just used time travel. As for Castiel being wary of Lucifer and Michael, I\\\'m not quite sure how much of a threat they\\\'d be to him at that point. He blew up their brother simply by snapping his fingers. Granted that Michael and Lucifer are more powerful than the other two archangels, but we don\\\'t how large the power disparity between them is.
