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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else. However, if you choose to pal around with the joker then you probably deserve what you get.
Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV-show ever, and will continue to happen to every TV-show, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else. However, if you choose to pal around with the joker then you probably deserve what you get.
Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV-show ever, and will continue to happen to every TV-show, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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Second, \'\'Like Fine Wine\'\' is inappropriate even as a recommendation, but \'\'Address Unknown\'\' can have its own trope page? That smacks of double standard, and I\'m saying that as someone who really likes \'\'Address Unknown\'\'.
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Second, \\\'\\\'Like Fine Wine\\\'\\\' is inappropriate even as a recommendation, but \\\'\\\'Address Unknown\\\'\\\' can have its own trope page? That smacks of double standard, and I\\\'m saying that as someone who really likes \\\'\\\'Address Unknown\\\'\\\'. Come to think of it, what are \\\'\\\'The Night Fluttershy Exploded\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'I Love to See You Smile\\\'\\\' still doing on this list if that\\\'s the standard we\\\'re going by now?
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else. However, if you choose to pal around with the joker then you probably deserve what you get.
Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else. However, if you choose to pal around with the joker then you probably deserve what you get.
Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- a startlingly obvious portrayal of a an abusive/manipulative relationship. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need because they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have an awful lot fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping and attempted murder, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona, he\\\'s apparently lost the ability to emote anything other than mild perturbence.
Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona has apparently forgotten how to emote anything beyond slight distaste. Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman doesn\\\'t count. Because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a Tragic Hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona has apparently forgotten how to emote anything beyond slight distaste. Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
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The definition of \\\"Woobie\\\" seems fairly clear cut; there needs to be a repeated circumstances of an external source that makes the character look like the universe is out to get them, generating a specific audience reaction.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman, because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a tragic hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona has apparently forgotten how to emote anything beyond slight distaste. Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
Most of the characters on this list have (as far as I can tell) one single event that drove them along the path to becoming what they are. And everything else is pretty much a direct result of that. They might be Sympathetic Villians, and one or two might qulaify for Jerkass Woobie, but to remain in this page they should at least have better explanations.
Bruce Wayne- lost his parents, went on to become THE BATMAN. Any time he gets beaten, tied up, or forced into some horrible situation because of being Batman, because frankly, more than any other hero, that\\\'s his choice. And as the DCAU continues, he only gets more and more badass. He does crush on quite a few femme fatales, but it\\\'s also specifically called out on the Woobie main page that a tragic hero doesn\\\'t count.
Harvey Dent- gets face splashed with acid; forgoes plastic surgery and therapy in order to become a hackneyed villian. I recall that several times in the comic books he does get fixed, only to be shoved back into the role of Two-Face, but in the animated series it\\\'s really much more like he just never gets fixed in the first place.
Victor Freeze- loses wife to horrible disease, then falls into a vat of freezing chemicals while looking for a cure. He\\\'s not exactly cruel most of the time, but he IS a villian, and by the time the audience meets him his Mr. Freeze persona has apparently forgotten how to emote anything beyond slight distaste. Stoic Woobie then, maybe.
*Kunac (eskimo boy)- gonna have to rewatch the movie for details, but as I vaguely recall, Mr. Freeze takes pretty good care of him.
Harley Quinnzel- pretty much the textbook case of an abusive relationship; in fact, an almost startlingly realistic one for a kid\\\'s cartoon. Probably only got past the censors because they figured it would fly right over most children\\\'s heads while they waited for Batman to punch some one else.
But again, Harley has had lots of chances to leave her \\\"Puddin\\\'\\\" and keeps going back. Needs therapy and apparently isn\\\'t getting it. Which brings me too...
Albert Wesker- probably the most borderline case. It\\\'s never made clear whether he\\\'s just crazy, or the doll is channeling the ghost of Chucky, but his only real problem is being a patient in the city with histories worst mental-health services, ever.
Oh, that and being to much of a coward to say \\\"no\\\" to a bad guy that literally cannot act without his compliance.
Mad Hatter- I have not played Arkham Asylum, but in the TV show he really seems to have to much fun using mind control on people. Also, if you thinkg being obsessesd with some one and not being able to take \\\"no\\\" for an answer justifies kidnapping, I\\\'m sure the Lifetime movie channel would like a few words with you.
Baby Doll- birth defect keeps her from ever growing up. Acts like a spoiled brat, apparently never maturing mentally either, despite claiming to want to be normal.
Her TV show gets cancelled, which might be sad except for the fact that its happened to pretty much every single TV ever, and will continue to happen to every TV, ever. They all need to end at some point; preferably before ratings slide so much that the exectuives start to meddle.
The only show that seems determined to run forever is Dr. Who, and even that changes up the actors occasionally.
Curare- I\\\'m not even sure what the tragic event for her is supposed to be, since we don\\\'t get much of a backstory. Was it \\\"fails to kill the Batman\\\"? Somehow I don\\\'t think that counts.
And then she goes on a roaring rampage of revenge against the world\\\'s other \\\"most deadly assassins\\\", and SUCCEEDS!
So to conclude, the only thing that would seem to qualify most of these characters for Woobie status is that fact that they can\\\'t get the help they really need becauser they live in Gotham, in which case I also nominate Gotham\\\'s entire civilian population, for having to live in the same city as these people.
Feel free to disagree, but please explain why.
