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[009] Hadashi Current Version
12th Dec '11 at 04:21:16 AM
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* InUniverse examples are being moved to a new YKTTW currently named [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=eajgc2bo0rbw17fixhfv2fuu A True Story In My World]]
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* InUniverse examples are being moved to ATrueStoryInMyWorld.
[008] Hadashi
4th Nov '11 at 03:07:54 PM
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* I am moving examples where it is actually Canon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called RecountedByTheMainCharacters
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* I am moving examples where it is actually Canon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called DirectLineToTheAuthor.
[007] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 04:06:55 PM
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* Actual examples of fandoms that have voiced the [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis Hypothesis that an author is, in fact, a Literary Agent or Ghostwriter for the characters or a witness]] will, of course remain here (If we can find any on the page!).
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* Actual examples of fandoms that have voiced [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis the Hypothesis that an author is, in fact, a Literary Agent or Ghostwriter for the characters or a witness]] will, of course remain here (If we can find any on the page!).
[006] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 04:06:03 PM
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In short (and despite several hours work), it is absolutely filled with canon examples that absolutely \'\'should not\'\' be there. This trope based purely on fannon conspiracy theories and should only contain examples of things that fans have theorised to be BasedOnATrueStory.
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In short (and despite several hours work), it is absolutely filled with canon examples that absolutely \\\'\\\'should not\\\'\\\' be there. This is a trope based around cataloguing a certain type of fannon conspiracy theory. It should \\\'\\\'only\\\'\\\' contain examples of things that fans have theorised to be BasedOnATrueStory and not things that the author writes \\\'\\\'as though\\\'\\\' they were true, or works where the creator pretends the work is a true account and this apparent basis in truth is a \\\'\\\'fundamental\\\'\\\' part of the story\\\'s canon.
[005] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 03:52:36 PM
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In short (and despite several hours work), it is absolutely filled with cannon examples that absolutely \'\'should not\'\' be there. This trope based purely on fannon conspiracy theories and should only contain examples of things that fans have theorised to be BasedOnATrueStory.
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In short (and despite several hours work), it is absolutely filled with canon examples that absolutely \\\'\\\'should not\\\'\\\' be there. This trope based purely on fannon conspiracy theories and should only contain examples of things that fans have theorised to be BasedOnATrueStory.
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* I am moving examples where it is actually Cannon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called RecountedByTheMainCharacters
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* I am moving examples where it is actually Canon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called RecountedByTheMainCharacters
[004] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 03:51:22 PM
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I hope this is Ok and that not too many people are annoyed by this....

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I hope that not too many people are annoyed by this, but it is a clearout that has been needed for a really serious length of time. The page \\\'\\\'cannot\\\'\\\' remain in the state it is in now and reverting it to the way it was would be absolute madness.
[003] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 03:49:35 PM
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* I am moving examples where it is, in some way, Cannon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called RecountedByTheMainCharacters
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* I am moving examples where it is actually Cannon that a fictional story is a recount of real events (as with Narnia and Animorphs) to a new trope called RecountedByTheMainCharacters
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I hope this is Ok and that not too many people are annoyed by this.
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I hope this is Ok and that not too many people are annoyed by this....
[002] Hadashi
2nd Nov '11 at 03:47:48 PM
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0k, this is probably going to annoy a few people but I am in the process of sorting out the LiteraryAgentHypothesis page. It was an absolute and total mess, and the description still needs more cutting and clarification. Essentially, this is an effort to get everything that shouldn\'t be there off the page and moved to where it belongs. There is a mountain of stuff that doesn\'t in any way fit this trope\'s original or apparent purpose.
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0k, this is probably going to annoy a few people but I am in the process of sorting out the LiteraryAgentHypothesis page. It was an absolute and total mess and the description still needs more cutting and clarification. Essentially, this is an effort to get everything that shouldn\\\'t be there off the page and moved to where it belongs. There is a mountain of stuff that doesn\\\'t in any way fit this trope\\\'s original or apparent purpose.
[001] dondon151
26th Sep '11 at 11:59:04 AM
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\\\"No, you don\\\'t make beyond broken stuff standard. All that does is only drive the point home that it is beyond broken, not show anything truly impressive.\\\"

Please, don\\\'t be ridiculous. There\\\'s no such thing as \\\"beyond broken.\\\"

\\\"And if you\\\'re going to leave boss abuse alone for high turn counts, then Elincia doesn\\\'t deserve a cut for being compared to beyond broken stuff. The fact is, Amiti still causes enough problems for the enemy force on 4-2 and 4-5, especially on 4-5 when Beastfoe turns it into effectively 1HKing Tigers with base Strength, and Vantage pretty much spikes up Elincia\\\'s Speed value during the enemy phase, considering the Tigers most likely can\\\'t 1HK her to begin with.\\\"

You can 1 turn 4-5 with 2 Rescue staff charges. That\\\'s pretty cool (and kind of broken).

\\\"And Laguz Royal brokenness didn\\\'t take long to figure out. [[http://twincritics.blogspot.com/2008/06/fire-emblem-radiant-dawn-laguz-lords.html A blog post]] I stumbled upon some time back points out why it\\\'s such a problem too. Any restriction if not outright ban they get would be well deserved, problems with Dheginsea or no. The only things that could deserve praise when using them would be the 0% growth runs. Shallow speedruns? Don\\\'t make me laugh.\\\"

It\\\'s actually fairly amusing that you can\\\'t trivialize 4-E-1 with only laguz royals. That\\\'s at least one map in 4-E where they\\\'re not the best (Haar, Jill, Titania are better in that map). Also, why do you think that only your opinion is valid? Why is this such a problem that it needs to be banned? As far as I know, the laguz royals are a completely legitimate component of the game.
Look at the GameBreaker page again. Its definition is not subject to arbitrary bans like what you\\\'ve proposed.

\\\"Stop using such high standards that LPers like SlimKirby couldn\\\'t keep up just as a cheap excuse for cutting examples on a YMMV trope. If I find what some of the things you do overcomplicated, what makes you think LPers in general, let alone newbies, will understand them whatsoever? You have no concept of a happy medium whatsoever.\\\"

LPers are not the end all be all of Fire Emblem players. In fact, most of them are pretty subpar. But anyway, what is there so complicated about warpskipping? Or using the undisputedly best character in the game? Certainly it is much less complicated than training a specific unit, giving her a specific skillset, and then trading her weapon every enemy phase!

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