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DonaldthePotholer
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
EDIT 2: One More Thing: Make Sure To Tell People To Press The Return/Enter Key Following The Backslashes!
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
EDIT 2: One More Thing: Make Sure To Tell People To Press The Return/Enter Key Following The Backslashes!
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Another potential guideline: \
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
EDIT 2: OneMoreThing: Make Sure To Tell People To Press The Return/Enter Key Following The Backslashes!
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
EDIT 2: OneMoreThing: Make Sure To Tell People To Press The Return/Enter Key Following The Backslashes!
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Another potential guideline: \
to:
Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\
If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\ If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) \\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\ If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)[=\\\\\\\\=][=\\\\\\\\=]If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)[=\\\\\\\\=][=\\\\\\\\=]If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)[=//=][=//=]If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)[=//=][=//=]If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) // If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.) // If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [[EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
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Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
Changed line(s) 1 from:
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Another potential guideline: \
to:
Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular Sugar/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
So often, I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular Sugar/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
EDIT: Edited to remove Red Links
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Another potential guideline: \
to:
Another potential guideline: \\\"Each 2nd-bullet item should be a logical extension of a Main Item (1st Level). Likewise, any justified 3rd-bullet items should be a logical extension of the closest 2nd-bullet item that is above it.\\\"
[[SeenItAMilionTimes So often]], I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasItsStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular Sugar/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
[[SeenItAMilionTimes So often]], I\\\'ve seen example pages where it seems like a 2nd-bullet item was written to [[JustifyingEdit clarify]] a 3rd-bullet item (or sometimes another 2nd-bullet. Granted, I sometimes engage in multiple-3rd bullet [[ThreadMode threads]], but seeing Alternating Bullets expanding on the same point [EvenEvilHasItsStandards just irks me]].
Also, there may need to be some clarification to the converse. Whenever a single work exhibits the same Trope in two different ways, they need to be expressed as two separate bullet points. Merely correcting a single 2nd-bullet by just using the \\\"new paragraph-same point\\\" markup doesn\\\'t always work.
----
Perhaps we should also have a diagram of what each bullet should represent: (I violate the policy here on purpose for demonstration purposes only.)
* On Example Pages, this is where the Work goes. On Works Pages, this is where the Example goes. (Single General Example of the Trope in action also goes here)
** Individual Example (If a multiple characters/settings/unconnected episodes, etc. commonly exemplify this Trope, a general example for each character/setting/episode/etc. works here. A singular Sugar/MostTriumphantExample for the same would also go on this line with paragraph breaks if necessary.)//If there is only one of \\\"generally accepted justification\\\" or WordOfGod on the subject, then it that is placed here \\\'\\\'following\\\'\\\' a paragraph break. (Same with a singular example with a singular {{Fanon}} explanation/WordOfGod, except this would then be on the 1st level.)
*** If there is \\\'\\\'\\\'at least two of\\\'\\\'\\\' a Most Triumphant Example, \\\'\\\'\\\'a\\\'\\\'\\\' [[{{Fanon}} generally accepted]] [[JustifiedTrope justification]], or direct WordOfGod on the subject, only then should the third bullet be used.
If there are [[EpilepticTrees multiple prevailing theories]] on the use of a Trope with a work/character/setting/etc., then these should go in that work\\\'s WildMassGuessing page. [[FlipFlopOfGod Multiple]] [[ShrugOfGod Words Of God]] still (each) merit their own 2nd/3rd-level point. This should be the only time that a 2nd-bullet point be used when it\\\'s not an example.[[hottip:*:not to be confused with NotAnExample.]]
When a Trope is [[PlayingWithATrope explored in multiple facets]] and when those facets don\\\'t have their own individual headers[[hottip:*:this latter applies only to an examples page]], each facet is its own 2nd bullet point. A potential exception is when a Character/Setting/Plot Element that is commonly known for portraying a Trope one way portrays it another way, in which case the Character/Setting/Plot Element becomes the 2nd level and the Facets become the 3rd level.
Basically, pattern each work\\\'s/character\\\'s example/trope with (only) the relevant items from the Playing With template.
Oh, and when there is a character page, move all examples of a Trope pertaining to the character to that page. If it is not a Spoiler Trope, a general reference to the character may be kept on the main works page.
Man, start by talking about a [[PetPeeveTrope Pet Peeve]] and I end up [[SeriousBusiness attempting to codify]] [[StopHavingFunGuys the whole practice further]].
